2010 Game Hint #2

[LavastormSW]

Originally Posted by EricH

As noted previously, those yellow "platforms" happen to be trip guards on field support units, and the gray "handle" happens to be the field border. Ask any other member of your team, or see the pictures earlier in this thread.

I don't think they're trip guards. If they were, they would be curved down to touch the floor. It doesn't seem like they would make a simple mistake like forgetting to curve them.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by LavastormSW

I don't think they're trip guards. If they were, they would be curved down to touch the floor. It doesn't seem like they would make a simple mistake like forgetting to curve them.

Because they are not manufactured curved. The curve comes from the velcro that holds then to the floor.

[alectronic]

Originally Posted by LavastormSW

I don't think they're trip guards. If they were, they would be curved down to touch the floor. It doesn't seem like they would make a simple mistake like forgetting to curve them.

Everyone keeps quoting the "everything is not as it seems" post. Therefore it logically makes sense that the trip guards may be more than just trip guards this time.
Although, if there were for human players, they would likely have a shield near them, so either that was removed, or they really are trip guards and they just didnt take the time to bend them.
i doubt they would have robots reach over the walls to do something like hit a switch, right?

[LavastormSW]

Originally Posted by techalex

Although, if there were for human players, they would likely have a shield near them, so either that was removed, or they really are trip guards and they just didn't take the time to bend them.

I agree. If a human player had to stand on/near one of the panels, there's a chance that a robot could potentially hurt them. I see no plexiglass/fence/whatever to prevent that.

[rulesall2]

Originally Posted by LavastormSW

I agree. If a human player had to stand on/near one of the panels, there's a chance that a robot could potentially hurt them. I see no plexiglass/fence/whatever to prevent that.

Here is a summary of the thread to avoid idea repetition.

The gate and gate location: If both fields (the pictures from above 2009 and 2010) are in fact in proportion, the gate is larger than 2009, in reference to the yellow pads, but the pads could easily be different sizes. There is evidence here about a new beta test gate that was larger: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34329 If you look to see how many "sections" if you will are shown in the render, there are approximately 1.5 on either side of the gate, which means, based on the 2009 field, it would be impossible to determine a location on the field. Possibly, with the hope for more matches, this is a third gate, which isn't a bad idea. The flooring appears to be carpet. The lack of plastic siding/wire: didn't put too much detail for clarity/ they don't exist, and that is part of hint. Finally, the yellow piece is used for safety to stop people from tripping:

2009 yellow:

2010 yellow:

2009 Field: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/...728cf3f6_b.jpg
2010 hint: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2531/...528ceee8_o.jpg

Hopefully, this will put the kibosh on repeating ideas that have already been discussed/stated.

[viking]

I think the hint is telling us:

1. Carpet
2. Same gate configuration - maybe larger
3. 3 gates on each side
4. scorers table moved somewhere else
5. all field elements are on the ends

[SteveGPage]

Let's pretend that we don't know anything about the standard field configuration. If you look at hint 1 and 2 as images (try laying them next to each other, or over the top of each other), you will see:

Both hints have 2 parallel lines
Both hints are oriented in almost the exact same way - approx 45 degrees
Both hints have "something" in the middle of the two lines - hint 1 is the lexan, hint 2 is the gate.
Both hints are CAD renderings
Both hints have the same backgrounds

No clue what the significance is, but I don't believe in coincidences when it comes to the GDC!

Steve

.... so happy Kick-off is in 2 1/2 days (my "Geek Christmas Morning!")

[Trent B]

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

Both hints are oriented in almost the exact same way - approx 45 degrees

Isometric is a pretty standard method of displaying stuff for a presentation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gr...comparison.png

Dimetric and Trimetric are also in solidworks last I checked (I cannot remember if inventor uses those views too but I know isometric is pretty standard (wiki it to learn what it actually is)) so I wouldn't say 45 degrees is coincidence personally.

[PAR_WIG1350]

Although unlikely, this might not even be part of the field border, but rather in the field somewhere.

[jmanela]

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350

Although unlikely, this might not even be part of the field border, but rather in the field somewhere.

however, you have to take into account the robot gate in the middle.

[SteveGPage]

Originally Posted by Trent B

Isometric is a pretty standard method of displaying stuff for a presentation.

Yes, I know. But "WHY" did they use two isometric CAD drawings. In previous years they used a mix of different media such as, pictures, LAT/LONG, Poems, Riddles, Rhymes, etc... This year they used TWO images that are very similar in composition. My point is, don't take the images in isolation. It could be their commonality that is the clue.

Best regards,

Steve

[Trent B]

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

Yes, I know. But "WHY" did they use two isometric CAD drawings.

True, last year all we got was a fish. They could also be completely unrelated in the hopes people would get confused about a supposed relationship (Dave is probably laughing somewhere). But now that I think about it it is pretty intriguing.

infinitydex I highly doubt a simple google search could get you the whole FRC game. I also doubt you would just lose the link if you truely thought it was the game. If I found this supposed "entire FRC game site" online I would hit the bookmark button so fast...

[infinitydex]

Originally Posted by Trent B

True, last year all we got was a fish. They could also be completely unrelated in the hopes people would get confused about a supposed relationship (Dave is probably laughing somewhere). But now that I think about it it is pretty intriguing.

infinitydex I highly doubt a simple google search could get you the whole FRC game. You are not giving yourself much credibility on the forum. Especially when you changed your description because you realized that the ramp like thing was for bringing bots in and out.

i noticed that 2 i actually thought it was watever i said it was because last year they removed them instead of leaving um in a 90 degree angle

[Thuvishan.R]

Originally Posted by viking

I think the hint is telling us:

1. Carpet
2. Same gate configuration - maybe larger
3. 3 gates on each side
4. scorers table moved somewhere else
5. all field elements are on the ends

I agree with everything except # 3 I find that highly doubt full but if they did then that might mean an increase in alliance any one see any 4vs 4 games but I doubt that as well i think were just looking at a regular size feild with carpet with those "racks" (refrenced to game hint 1) which we saw earlier on the sides which deals with scoring. Those yellow markers were probably just to throw us off. As well think about it? why would we put a game peice or human players right where there will be constant traffic flow of robots entering and exiting the feild. Those yellow tabs are just ment to hold the field down to the carpet.

[carolynn4848]

Maybe "everything is not as it seems" was said because they knew everyone would start looking too closely. Maybe this hint is exactly what it seems to be and we're just looking too closely. Remember the first hint from last year? Everyone took the picture of the moonfish and started flipping it around and contorting it in every way possible, trying to read the words in the background, and it turned out to have nothing to to with the words. Maybe this hint is the same way.

or

They did mean to look closer when they said "everything is not as it seems".........