2010 Game Hint #2

[rulesall2]

Originally Posted by LavastormSW

I agree. If a human player had to stand on/near one of the panels, there's a chance that a robot could potentially hurt them. I see no plexiglass/fence/whatever to prevent that.

Here is a summary of the thread to avoid idea repetition.

The gate and gate location: If both fields (the pictures from above 2009 and 2010) are in fact in proportion, the gate is larger than 2009, in reference to the yellow pads, but the pads could easily be different sizes. There is evidence here about a new beta test gate that was larger: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34329 If you look to see how many "sections" if you will are shown in the render, there are approximately 1.5 on either side of the gate, which means, based on the 2009 field, it would be impossible to determine a location on the field. Possibly, with the hope for more matches, this is a third gate, which isn't a bad idea. The flooring appears to be carpet. The lack of plastic siding/wire: didn't put too much detail for clarity/ they don't exist, and that is part of hint. Finally, the yellow piece is used for safety to stop people from tripping:

2009 yellow:

2010 yellow:

2009 Field: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/...728cf3f6_b.jpg
2010 hint: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2531/...528ceee8_o.jpg

Hopefully, this will put the kibosh on repeating ideas that have already been discussed/stated.

[infinitydex]

READ THIS ITS THE COMPETITION

i learned that the competition is something with shooting like basketball with no baskets or basketballs. its balls like last years competition. the hint #1 is a holder for a ball that is mounted on the wall. if u look closely at hint to the bottom right corner is field and the top right is a wall. its carpet flooring and the yellow things are supports for the field wall, nothing other then that. they had it in last years competition. our team noticed that the steal plate was the loading ramp until some1 say that it was at a 90 degree angle. as we think thats a pivit point so 1+ ball in there and then flip it. also we think that u can shoot teh balls or objects over the wall.
TY
c u at the kick off january 9 2010.
Midpacific team Hawaii

[infinitydex]

Originally Posted by Spylake

Warming up the bullpen for #2

Since they named the last hint #1 it stands to reason that there should be at least a game hint #2.

y would u even post that

[viking]

I think the hint is telling us:

1. Carpet
2. Same gate configuration - maybe larger
3. 3 gates on each side
4. scorers table moved somewhere else
5. all field elements are on the ends

[Neo1699]

Anyone recognize the program that is rendered in? and if so, would that program render clear plexiglass, or would it remain entirely clear? looking at it, there appears to be no plexiglass in the wall, if that is true, then that would imply there is no need to worry about anything escaping the playing field that is smaller than 1.5-2 feet (correct on size if possible)

[EricH]

infinitydex does not know the real game. If he did, he would not have come out to say what it is.

He also appears to be a rookie, without proper field setup knowledge. The plate is in fact a loading ramp, with a hinge point at the bend.

[TD912]

Originally Posted by infinitydex

READ THIS ITS THE COMPETITION

i learned that the competition is something with shooting like basketball with no baskets or basketballs. its balls like last years competition. the hint #1 is a holder for a ball that is mounted on the wall. if u look closely at hint to the bottom right corner is field and the top right is a wall. its carpet flooring and the yellow things are supports for the field wall, nothing other then that. they had it in last years competition. our team noticed that the steal plate was the loading ramp until some1 say that it was at a 90 degree angle. as we think thats a pivit point so 1+ ball in there and then flip it. also we think that u can shoot teh balls or objects over the wall.
TY
c u at the kick off january 9 2010.
Midpacific team Hawaii

Some good ideas you have there, but I don't think that's the actual game. The second hint is a part of the edge around the field, it's not in the middle of it. The 90 degree 'bent' steel plate has a hinge so it stops robots from going off the field when there's a game going on, and folds down afterward to let them pass through, sorta like a door.

Well, I guess we'll find out in less than 3 days... Good luck!

P.S. to everyone else: Don't be pickin' on the rookie teams, guys! We're here to help them get off to a good start. In a way, because they don't know about past field designs, it allows them to come up with some more ideas instead of rehashing old ones over and over.

[SteveGPage]

Let's pretend that we don't know anything about the standard field configuration. If you look at hint 1 and 2 as images (try laying them next to each other, or over the top of each other), you will see:

Both hints have 2 parallel lines
Both hints are oriented in almost the exact same way - approx 45 degrees
Both hints have "something" in the middle of the two lines - hint 1 is the lexan, hint 2 is the gate.
Both hints are CAD renderings
Both hints have the same backgrounds

No clue what the significance is, but I don't believe in coincidences when it comes to the GDC!

Steve

.... so happy Kick-off is in 2 1/2 days (my "Geek Christmas Morning!")

[Tetraman]

Originally Posted by dodar

Just curious but where did you get those pictures from?

I made them in photoshop.

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by AndyB

In my opinion, the message being communicated is that we are back on carpet this year. I'm curious about the lack of plastic siding, as mentioned before.

That's pretty much what I've determined. Given that it's a picture of a standard field part, there's not much controversy as to what it is. I think that the main points are just the return to carpet (just to relieve some headaches), and possibly the location of the gate. I'm also curious about the lack of plastic siding, though it was probably just either an oversight or it was taken out for clarity purposes.

Originally Posted by dodar

Just curious but where did you get those pictures from?

To me, they look like 2-minute-MS Paint-drawings. One is just colored a little differently.

[dodar]

ok so then for what purpose did you make them and post them in this thread? I am just curious to see the relationship from GH#2 and your pictures

[Tetraman]

You are now aware that the pinning rule will return to FIRST.

[xPaulWallx4]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Interesting. It looks like a standard FRC field gate, but it is not obviously near the end of the field. Is this a third gate in the middle of the side?

i have a feeling, that it is actually the only entrance onto and off the field. Obviously they would have one on both sides.

[apalrd]

Originally Posted by D.Allred

The hint - play faster...

Originally Posted by Pikat

1 minute matches!!!

Anyone remember that in 2001 you got a bonus for finishing early?

[wolfie261995]

Three alliances maybe?