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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

well what id think in that situation what we should do would be just do rounds for each division and just make the leagues like 11 people deep so then that would make just 8 divisions for Nationals
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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well what id think in that situation what we should do would be just do rounds for each division and just make the leagues like 11 people deep so then that would make just 8 divisions for Nationals
Nah, this is the one draft where everyone competes against everyone. There's also a slightly different point structure, which happens to include the Einstein matches. So it kind of isn't fair to some folks to go by division.

And if we did go by divisions, we'd just do the full round. All of us together is 66 teams in a 3-round draft, and there are 70-80 in a division. There are 300+ teams in the event, so we can do quite a few. Last year, we did 4 rounds, and there were good teams left over.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I was just thinking if we did it by each person getting 3 robots from each division, everyone would get a look at every division, more points to be had, and everyone would get more picks
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I think doing a league for each division for Champs is an interesting idea. By selecting more teams I think it adds a bit more skill in trying to pull some diamonds in the rough. Also, the increase in the number of possible Champs points will likely keep more players in contention for the overall championship up through Champs.


If the issue is running 4 separate drafts I will gladly run 1 or even 2 of them at the same time. If the issue is people not wanting to make lists/picks for 4 separate drafts then I have no problem with the way we did it last year.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

there are PLENTY of good teams in Atlanta. I usually have no problem picking a 4th robot.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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there are PLENTY of good teams in Atlanta. I usually have no problem picking a 4th robot.
I totally agree. I'm down for more rounds - it's such a deep field that my list would have enough teams to go multiple rounds for once!
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Here's how it's been done in the past:

2 years ago: 3 rounds due to running out of time. We were, shall we say, much less organized that year.
Last year: 4 rounds over a few days. Still some good teams left.

This year, if we could do two rounds per day, we could probably get 5-6 rounds in, and still have some decent teams left over.

Let's do the math: 22 players, 320 teams as a decent estimate. That's enough to do 14 rounds at the outside and still have a few teams left. That's also a lot of time to take, so let's not have that many. I'd be just fine with 5-6 rounds spread over 2-3 days.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I admit I am quite fascinated with the concept of doing four drafts for each divisions. I must point out the winner of the Elgin Clock would have HUGE ADVANTAGE getting a first shot at apparently the best team available in each division. The drafts would have to be done on the weekend of April 10th and 11th with dual drafts each night. I will be traveling by car towards Atlanta but I should be available to run a draft.
So you guys down with this idea?
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I'll probably be available to run drafts then.

Side note: if everyone has a list in, the drafts run MUCH faster. Also note that exact format--1-tier or 2-tier would have to be chosen.

Also, FYI, the Championship scoring modifications are typically as follows:

5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners

40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field

80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges

10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned


These might need tweaking to account for a different system, or might not.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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I'll probably be available to run drafts then.

Side note: if everyone has a list in, the drafts run MUCH faster. Also note that exact format--1-tier or 2-tier would have to be chosen.

Also, FYI, the Championship scoring modifications are typically as follows:

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50.....Winners - Einstein Field

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45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges

10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned


These might need tweaking to account for a different system, or might not.
Don't fix it if it aint broken.
We will have to be on top of our game and be ready to have the final standings a few days after the end of week 5 so we can have both the final standings and team rankings ready for the championships.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Don't fix it if it aint broken.
We will have to be on top of our game and be ready to have the final standings a few days after the end of week 5 so we can have both the final standings and team rankings ready for the championships.
If this year goes anything like last year, scores will be out right after the end of Week 5. The teams list should be going out as soon as the last drafts are finished.
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Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

So just so I know I am getting this right, we are gonna do one draft for each division?
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So just so I know I am getting this right, we are gonna do one draft for each division?
Sounds good to me.
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