Suction as a method for possessing balls

sdcantrell56 · #1 12-01-2010, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor

So a robot that is controlling a ball via suction goes over a bump. At some point, that ball is going to lose contact with the ground. Would this be a carry?
edit: I realize this should be an official Q&A but I'd like to see what you fine folks think.

How would this not be a penalty? The rules explicitly state you cant be in control of a ball thats not in contact with the ground.

EricH · #2 12-01-2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

How would this not be a penalty?

It's not intentional, and probably momentary. It's like having the ball bounce off your hand in soccer--the refs probably won't call that, especially if you don't make any move to control the ball or your hand is against your body, but they can if they think it's intentional on your part.

Yes, definitely one for Q&A.

sdcantrell56 · #3 12-01-2010, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH

It's not intentional, and probably momentary. It's like having the ball bounce off your hand in soccer--the refs probably won't call that, especially if you don't make any move to control the ball or your hand is against your body, but they can if they think it's intentional on your part.

Yes, definitely one for Q&A.

IDK the fact that you know you designed your robot so that it violates that rule whenever you go over a bump sounds pretty intentional. I agree its definitely not an easy thing to work around but so far it seems pretty explicit.

Chexposito · #4 12-01-2010, 18:53

in overdrive 1986 (Team Titanium) used a suction cup to move the track balls, it worked extremely well compared to initial thoughts.

sami9145 · #5 12-01-2010, 18:57

Suction... hadnt thought about that yet but it seems fun!

to answer the bump problem... as long as the vaccuum suction is turned off when you go over the bump so its not holding the ball would it still be possession if it "happened" to go over the bump with you even tho you had no hold on it at that time?

i will put this idea to my team tho >.>

Analog · #6 12-01-2010, 19:13

Suction may work, but it seem that the ball needs to drag on the ground, and not roll.

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