Go to Post A game where you don't have control of your robot for long periods of time is no fun (unless, of course you are talking about autonomous :p) - Cody Carey [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 7 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2010, 14:13
DtD's Avatar
DtD DtD is offline
I hope the watchdog starves!
AKA: Pathogen David
FRC #2410 (The Metal Mustangs (Merged from 2334, Hazmat Robotics))
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 86
DtD will become famous soon enoughDtD will become famous soon enough
Re: Soccer Ball Sold Out

Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about. A socer ball is a socer ball. Our team didn't even consider getting an official ball, we are going to design our robot to use the misc size 5 soccer balls we all have lying around our houses.

I can understand the issue with Lunacy, where the game pieces were very unique and diffrent some anything else.

~DtD
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2010, 14:44
Tetraman's Avatar
Tetraman Tetraman is offline
FIRST on my mind
AKA: Evan Raitt
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 1,322
Tetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond reputeTetraman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Soccer Ball Sold Out

Quote:
Originally Posted by DtD View Post
Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about. A socer ball is a socer ball. Our team didn't even consider getting an official ball, we are going to design our robot to use the misc size 5 soccer balls we all have lying around our houses.
While there is no problem with this line of thinking, you will be giving up valuable understanding of certain variables. You just have to remember that the game pieces that will be on the field will not be the same soccer ball you used to build and practice with your robot. Surfaces, stitching, bounce, and even inflation can pose either drastic or minute differences that could potentially make any of your mechanisms unsuitable.
__________________
"For every great theory about design, there is a better and contradictory theory about design. And don't let the irony of that escape you."
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 02:06
rwood359 rwood359 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Randy
FRC #0359 (Hawaiian Kids)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Waialua, HI
Posts: 212
rwood359 is a name known to allrwood359 is a name known to allrwood359 is a name known to allrwood359 is a name known to allrwood359 is a name known to allrwood359 is a name known to all
Re: Soccer Ball Sold Out

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetraman View Post
While there is no problem with this line of thinking, you will be giving up valuable understanding of certain variables. You just have to remember that the game pieces that will be on the field will not be the same soccer ball you used to build and practice with your robot. Surfaces, stitching, bounce, and even inflation can pose either drastic or minute differences that could potentially make any of your mechanisms unsuitable.
And don't forget color, if you want to ball handle during autonomous. We're getting the Ice Blue ones - will probably use off the shelf white for ball tracking checkout.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 02:28
Vikesrock's Avatar
Vikesrock Vikesrock is offline
Team 2175 Founder
AKA: Kevin O'Connor
no team
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 3,305
Vikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Vikesrock Send a message via MSN to Vikesrock Send a message via Yahoo to Vikesrock
Re: Soccer Ball Sold Out

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwood359 View Post
And don't forget color, if you want to ball handle during autonomous. We're getting the Ice Blue ones - will probably use off the shelf white for ball tracking checkout.
Depending on what type of sensor you are using to try and locate the ball, color may or may not be a factor. If we use a sensor to locate balls in autonomous I doubt it is going to be the camera. I think something like an Ultrasonic or IR setup is more the direction I would go.
__________________


2007 Wisconsin Regional Highest Rookie Seed & Regional Finalists (Thanks 930 & 2039)
2008 MN Regional Semifinalists (Thanks 2472 & 1756)
2009 Northstar Regional Semifinalists (Thanks 171 & 525)
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2010, 14:51
David Brinza's Avatar
David Brinza David Brinza is offline
Lead Mentor, Lead Robot Inspector
FRC #0980 (ThunderBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 1,378
David Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond reputeDavid Brinza has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Soccer Ball Sold Out

Quote:
Originally Posted by DtD View Post
Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about. A socer ball is a socer ball. Our team didn't even consider getting an official ball, we are going to design our robot to use the misc size 5 soccer balls we all have lying around our houses.

I can understand the issue with Lunacy, where the game pieces were very unique and diffrent some anything else.

~DtD
The outer surface finish and stitching can vary significantly among soccer balls. Depending how teams choose to interact with the balls, those parameters can have a big effect on the behavior of the ball.

While it may be fun to design a robot that will manage a variety of soccer balls well, we're just trying to develop a design solution for the official game piece. I'm hoping we won't have a repeat of the Poof Balls in Atlanta in 2006 (i.e. a new "game challenge").
__________________
"There's never enough time to do it right, but always time to do it over."
2003 AZ: Semifinals, Motorola Quality; SoCal: Q-finals, Xerox Creativity; IRI: Q-finals
2004 AZ: Semifinals, GM Industrial Design; SoCal: Winners, Leadership in Controls; Championship: Galileo #2 seed, Q-finals; IRI: Champions
2005 AZ: #1 Seed, Xerox Creativity; SoCal: Finalist, RadioShack Controls; SVR: Winners, Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technologies"; Championship: Archimedes Semifinals; IRI: Finalist
2007 LA: Finalist; San Diego: Q-finals; CalGames: Finalist || 2008 San Diego: Q-finals; LA: Winners; CalGames: Finalist || 2009 LA: Semifinals; Las Vegas: Q-finals; IRI: #1 Seed, Finalist
2010 AZ: Motorola Quality; LA: Finalist || 2011 SD: Q-finals; LA: Q-finals || 2013 LA: Xerox Creativity, WFFA, Dean's List Finalist || 2014 IE: Q-finals, LA: Finalist, Dean's List Finalist
2016 Ventura: Q-finals, WFFA, Engineering Inspiration
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Soccer Ball Correction adambspaulding Technical Discussion 3 09-01-2010 14:26
Chicklets sold out???? 987HighRoller General Forum 1 20-02-2008 19:04
Trinity Robotics Programming Workshop - SOLD OUT! Jessica Boucher General Forum 5 19-09-2006 09:56
VEX UltraSonic and Encoder SOLD OUT... Chris_Elston Electrical 5 09-01-2006 13:22
size soccer ball newatthis General Forum 1 15-01-2002 14:06


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:01.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi