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I actually have found the ultimate bot design. The issue is whether or not any rules will be broken.
http://www.xkcd.com/689/ |
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
heh... If only Randall had named that comic Dozer's Revenge
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
To start, this would most likely be barred from use simply because it's designed as a loophole tactic; judges try to eliminate that as much as possible because it's not in the spirit of the game.
Also, wouldn't this violate the finale configuration rule <R10> which says the maximum "regular configuration height" is 60 inches, meaning the robot can't extent to the height you specified because the bar is 7 feet above the ground? Also, I can't cite the rule off hand but robots can't interfere with the ball-return mechanism...I'm fairly sure the judges could use this to disqualify your bot in attempt to keep out loophole designs, like I said in the beginning. |
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From what I see, properly implemented, it could be legal. As for it's effectiveness ... That is to be seen. I, personally, look forward to playing against this strategy. |
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
So, how about if a bot has a net that sticks up 3-4 feet and when the balls leave the chute they hit the properly placed bot and at least roll toward the tunnel into their alliances side?
It's passive, but if it's in the middle of the bot the balls would hit it more than 3 inches in the frame perimitter. I don't see this as a sole stragity, but as something availble to help the alliance if needed. What do you think? Mike |
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
You can't touch the balls once you're up on the tower.
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
Says who? Which rule prohibits this?
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
I think the only question here is, The GDC want's teams to play soccer, more or less, is doing something other then playing soccer going end up becoming illegal via a clarification week 6 or between events? Basically, teams are scared of ending up like 190/1519 in 2008.
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I don't think a lot of teams are scared of their robot designs being ruled illegal. |
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Re: The ultimate game breaker bot.
Not to pick on Dan, but I want to clarify the roles. Judges are there to select awards (Chairmans, etc.) Referees and Inspectors are there to enforce the rules. Very different roles among the three positions. |
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In any case, I dont think that theres going to be many (if any) teams trying this tactic, as its very difficult to do it within the rules as written now. |
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You obviously can't POSSESS the balls over the bumper (using your hands in soccer) but I see nothing in the rules, now that they clarified them with the update that would disallow passively directing the ball with the top of your robot (your chest) like you do in soccer. |
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The next year, the definition of ROBOT was changed to include a mobility system, control system, etc. and it hasn't changed. |
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