changing bumper colours

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by dlavery

Somebody really needs to read the rules.




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Not against the rules to have their numbers in the camo, now is it?

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Not against the rules to have their numbers in the camo, now is it?

Dave is referring to <R07>F:

The fabric covering the BUMPERS must be solid red or solid blue in color. Visually, the red or blue must be as close to the corresponding color in the FIRST logo as reasonable (i.e. to a reasonably astute observer, they appear similar). The only markings permitted on the BUMPER fabric cover are the team number (see Rule <R15>).

Note the "solid red or solid blue". Camo is not a solid color - it's an overlay of multiple colors, and would additionally count as markings other than the team number.

[Alex Cormier]

I did not say anything in the previous post about covering the entire bumper in the colors. Now did I?

[johnr]

Where can you legally put the velcro? If you can put it on top and bottom of bumper,does it have to match that bumper color? Could you cut your numbers out of velcro for added holding power?

[Cynette]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Not against the rules to have their numbers in the camo, now is it?

Shhh, Alex. Now you are giving away our secret plan.

Originally Posted by johnr

Where can you legally put the velcro? If you can put it on top and bottom of bumper,does it have to match that bumper color? Could you cut your numbers out of velcro for added holding power?

Oh, pooh, now you are going to make me go re-read the rules to make sure there isn't something against having velcro on the outside of the bumpers!

I envisioned having the soft part of the velcro on the bumper backs or top edges as needed, depending on how they are mounted. For aesthetics, I am trying to find a velcro to match the color.

[the man]

Base camo and have a removable red and blue

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by the man

Base camo and have a removable red and blue

That's what I am mulling over in my brain and will talk to our lead mentor about tomorrow. We have tie dyed our bumper fabric in the past and for demo purposes after the competition season, we would prefer to have the purple tie dye bumpers. I think the weight of the additional fabric will not be that much more, but it will need to be considered and factored in.

[Carol]

For those using removable bumper covers, don't forget this rule as well:

<G41> a. Bumper covers must not detach, even unintentionally, from the ROBOT. Violation: PENALTY.

[viper110110]

Originally Posted by the man

Base camo and have a removable red and blue

That's what I was thinking

seems like the thing my team will ignore until the last minute.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by the man

Base camo and have a removable red and blue

Unfortunately, the rules require you to have a base red or base blue. <R07-F>.

Make camo covers for demos.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by EricH

Unfortunately, the rules require you to have a base red or base blue. <R07-F>.

Eric,
I'm reading <R07-F>. Can you point out where it says, base red or base blue? I'm not arguing, I'm asking.

Jane

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

Eric,
I'm reading <R07-F>. Can you point out where it says, base red or base blue? I'm not arguing, I'm asking.

Jane

Originally Posted by <R07>

F. The fabric covering the BUMPERS must be solid red or solid blue in color.

Originally Posted by <R12>

The color of the BUMPERS will be used to identify the ALLIANCE to which the ROBOT has been assigned, red or blue. Therefore, each ROBOT must be able to display red BUMPERS and blue BUMPERS This may be done via either of two acceptable methods:

A. Each ROBOT may be built with two complete sets of interchangeable BUMPERS, one red and one blue. If this method is chosen, the BUMPERS must be identical except for the color of the covering fabric (see Rule <R07-F>).

B. The BUMPERS may be constructed with a fabric covering of one color (see Rule <R07-F>), and then covered with a removable fabric shroud of the opposite color when appropriate.

(emphasis mine)

So it looks like if you want bumpers in your traditional colors or patterned material, you'll have to build a separate set just for demos.

[BrendanB]

If you really want to have your teams bumper colors from previous years, there is one way to go around that. Make your bumpers with your teams special set on it, like 1511's wicked cool camo pants. Then make two sets of bumper covers, on red and the other blue. Put them on before the match and take them off after.

EDIT: Sorry for repeating a post, my browser skipped over most of the page.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

If you really want to have your teams bumper colors from previous years, there is one way to go around that. Make your bumpers with your teams special set on it, like 1511's wicked cool camo pants. Then make two sets of bumper covers, on red and the other blue. Put them on before the match and take them off after.

We just got done saying...

<R07-F> and <R12> say that that's illegal.

Nothing says that you can't have a second covering that's your favorite special color for demos and the like; just don't use it in competition.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Not against the rules to have their numbers in the camo, now is it?

Somebody really needs to read the rules.

-dave





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