Go to Post Count up all the white space in your code sometime and calculate how much weight it adds. - ChuckDickerson [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2010, 19:02
rihan.nasser's Avatar
rihan.nasser rihan.nasser is offline
Registered User
FRC #3132
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
rihan.nasser will become famous soon enough
Bumper/customs issues

According to the manual (Section number 8.3.1 Rule number <R07> Part D) we must use plywood backing on our bumper. It is actually against US customs regulations to ship wood from Australia into the US. So then how do we build our bumper?!! From any teams from anywhere but the US, we would apprieciate some advice.


Team 3132 (Australia)
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2010, 19:42
IndySam's Avatar
IndySam IndySam is offline
Registered User
FRC #0829 (Digital Goats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Indy
Posts: 3,361
IndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Bumper/customs issues

Contact some teams that are near the regional you are attending. I'm sure many of them would be happy to make bumpers to your specifications and have them ready for you.
__________________
"Champions are champions not because they do anything extraordinary but because they do the ordinary things better than anyone else." —Chuck Knoll


2015 Indianapolis District Winner
2014 Boilermaker Regional Industrial Design Award
2013 Smoky Mountain Regional Industrial Design Award
2012 Boilermaker Engineering Excellence Award
2010 Boilermaker Rockwell Innovation in Control Award.
2009 Buckeye J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2009 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2008 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2007 St Louis Regional Winners
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2010, 19:46
DonRotolo's Avatar
DonRotolo DonRotolo is offline
Back to humble
FRC #0832
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 7,011
DonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Bumper/customs issues

US Customs or Australian Customs? If you are referring to US Customs, then you are misinformed: Processed wood can be imported. But don't take my word for it, look it up.

Of course, IndySam's advice is also good. I'd do it for you, but I'm not planning on being in New Hampshire, sorry.
__________________

I am N2IRZ - What's your callsign?
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2010, 19:08
rihan.nasser's Avatar
rihan.nasser rihan.nasser is offline
Registered User
FRC #3132
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
rihan.nasser will become famous soon enough
Re: Bumper/customs issues

no no ....... australian wood cant be taken in to america (american customs)
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2010, 19:15
Jones571's Avatar
Jones571 Jones571 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Corey
FRC #0571 (Paragon)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Windsor,CT
Posts: 462
Jones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud ofJones571 has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Jones571
Re: Bumper/customs issues

Quote:
Originally Posted by rihan.nasser View Post
According to the manual (Section number 8.3.1 Rule number <R07> Part D) we must use plywood backing on our bumper. It is actually against US customs regulations to ship wood from Australia into the US. So then how do we build our bumper?!! From any teams from anywhere but the US, we would apprieciate some advice.


Team 3132 (Australia)
Won't the crate that the robot is shipped in be made of wood?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2010, 19:18
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is online now
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,813
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Bumper/customs issues

Rihan, could you somehow let us know what the regulation is, or link to a site we can find it at?

I looked in the Manual, Section 4, and found the following, which should be at least somewhat compliant with US guidelines:
Quote:
4.6.3. International Teams - Crates Crossing US Borders
The above sections apply to all crates. Crates crossing a US border have additional limits. Federal Rules apply to the crating and the pallets you will use to ship crates across US Borders to FRC events.
The US Dept. of Agriculture has adopted international guidelines to decrease the potential for the introduction of certain plant pests that may accompany wood materials arriving from other countries. The crate construction and pallet guidelines stipulate that wood packing materials be either heat treated or fumigated with methyl bromide in accordance with applicable rules. These wood materials must have the approved international mark certifying treatment.
ALL IMPORTS (with certain exceptions) WILL BE DENIED ENTRY IF THEIR WOOD PACKING MATERIAL DOES NOT CONFORM TO THESE GUIDELINES AND MARKING REQUIREMENTS.
All international teams, or US teams shipping into and out of the US, must do the following to comply:
• Use only plywood or other exempted wood materials when constructing their shipping crates and robots;
• If using raw wood materials such as 4” x 4”, 2” x 4”s, 1” x boards, etc…, obtain the materials from a lumber dealer who sells compliant wood products;
• Be sure the wood is marked with the approved international mark;
• Make sure you use properly treated and labeled wood for the 4” x 4”s under your crate used for facilitating forklift use;
• If you must use a pallet to ship your crate, make sure it is either non-wood or a compliant wood pallet, available from commercial pallet distributors;
• Canadian teams should obtain an appropriate importer’s statement as indicated; and
• Contact your local FedEx office for additional information and assistance. You can also find information at: http://fedex.com/us/promo/woodpackaging.html
If you use plywood, you can build your own bumpers. Unless the USDA or whoever oversees wood imports has something that specifically states that no wood from Australia can come into the US, you can use treated wood.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-01-2010, 02:19
rihan.nasser's Avatar
rihan.nasser rihan.nasser is offline
Registered User
FRC #3132
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
rihan.nasser will become famous soon enough
Lightbulb Re: Bumper/customs issues

thank you

we didn't find the info from a website .........
our mentor told us from a personal incident
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bumper Qs Woody1458 General Forum 13 29-01-2009 16:41
BUMPER PERIMETER GaryVoshol Rules/Strategy 25 27-01-2009 22:55
bumper coolguybigt Technical Discussion 4 27-02-2007 16:40
Bumper or No? WebWader125 Technical Discussion 19 11-01-2006 01:28
Proof Canadian Customs Actually Does Something... Harrison Chit-Chat 15 01-04-2003 20:57


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:13.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi