Pneumatics cv.32

[Mike Betts]

Originally Posted by Ether

Mike,

Don't the rules already prohibit larger than .160 ID tubing ?


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Show me... I've been wrong before...

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Mike Betts

Show me... I've been wrong before...

<R71> plus <R72>E ?

<R71> To satisfy multiple constraints associated with safety, consistency, robot inspection, and constructive innovation, no pneumatic parts other than those explicitly permitted by the Pneumatic System Rules may be used on the ROBOT.

<R72> In addition to the items included in the KOP, pneumatic system items specifically permitted on 2010 FRC ROBOTS include the following items. All included items must be “off the shelf” pneumatic devices rated by their manufacturers for pressure of at least 125psi, and used in their original, unaltered condition (except as required for assembly with other components).

E. Additional 0.160” inch inside diameter pneumatic tubing functionally equivalent to that provided in the KOP, with the pressure rating clearly factory-printed on the exterior of the tubing (note: alternate tubing colors are acceptable).


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[Mike Betts]

If you read my original post, I stated that I thought that the GDC would have to correct this oversight.

As the rules read right now, I am permitted to use .160 ID, I do not have to...

I really don't want to lawyer this. IMHO, the intent is to limit air flow and the GDC will have to amend the rules to enforce it...

I would suggest that you have your Main Team Contact ask via the official Q&A. As a mere lead inspector, I do not have the authority to do so...

Regards,

Mike

[Ether]

Hi Mike,

Originally Posted by Mike Betts

If you read my original post, I stated that I thought that the GDC would have to correct this oversight.

I read your original post, and I understood your statement. I disagree with your statement. Explanation follows.

As the rules read right now, I am permitted to use .160 ID, I do not have to...

To me, the rules are clear that .160 is required, because of Rule<R71>:

no pneumatic parts other than those explicitly permitted by the Pneumatic System Rules may be used on the ROBOT

I really don't want to lawyer this.

Neither do I.

IMHO, the intent is to limit air flow

Agree!!

and the GDC will have to amend the rules to enforce it...

disagree.

I would suggest that you have your Main Team Contact ask via the official Q&A.

We don't need to. We plan to follow Rule <R71> and use only the explicitly permitted pneumatic parts.

As a mere lead inspector, I do not have the authority to do so...

Thanks for the time and effort you put into being an inspector. It is appreciated.

Grace,

Ether

[BOSS]

I am glad to see that you both got to vent over the rules. As can be seen by both of your posts, I need to stick with whats given to me, so I ll use the hoses given to me, Ill use the solenoid given to just add 2 or 3 to it as long as they meet 125 psi. I am thinking it does not matter as long as I purchase them over the counter and they hold 125 psi I believe I can increase my air flow in this manner and not use springs or surgical tubing. But I could be wrong. Thanks I hope you enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed reading it.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by BOSS

I believe I can increase my air flow in this manner and not use springs or surgical tubing. But I could be wrong.

Let us know how it turns out please?

I'm not placing any bets but my guess is you won't see dramatic improvement (if you stick to the 0.160 ID tubing)

Take a look at this post for other possible ideas:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=910176


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