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wireless bridge problems

after setting up the wireless router we cannot set up the wireless bridge. it will not allow us to access the webpage using the ip address specified in the manual.

can someone help us?
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Re: wireless bridge problems

What is the ip address of your computers network card set at?
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Re: wireless bridge problems

if ur talking about the local area network its set to 10.xx.yy.4 from when we set up the wireless router but when we start to setup the wireless bridge we set it to automatically find the ip address like it said to do in the manual. then we type 192.168.1.250 into the wbe browser and it say explorer cannot display this page
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Re: wireless bridge problems

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after setting up the wireless router we cannot set up the wireless bridge. it will not allow us to access the webpage using the ip address specified in the manual.
The instructions require that you set up the bridge first, then the router. Since you did things out of order, the instructions don't work.

You need to set a static IP address of 192.168.1.2 and then follow the directions in 2.10.1.
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Re: wireless bridge problems

I have setup a wireless bridge on our network that are using the following:

1.1 Linksys Wireless Ethernet Bridge
Model #: WET54G

1.2 Radio Labs WiFi Backfire Antenna
Model #: BACKFIRE14

1.3 Hawking Technology Hi-Gain Heavy Duty Antenna Extension
Model #: HAC30N

1.4 Pacific Wireless Antenna Pigtail(N Male to RP-SMA Male)
Model #: CA100-NM-RSMAM-12

These items are used on both ends of the wireless bridge at a distance of approx. 130 yards. Our problem lies in the connection reliability. We have %100 uptime on the bridge that is physically connected to the network, but constantly have to power cycle the other bridge (remote building) to get the connection back. It usually stays up for at least a few hours (sometimes shorter) and completely drops. When pinging the remote bridge, it usually hangs around 35ms and can spike to around 150ms. It is usually at this time that the connection can timeout and drop. I have lowered the RTS threshold to 1200 and switched to 802.11b (since i heard the signal is better over longer distances). Is there anything that I am missing?

NOTE: When I look at the signal strength on the bridge I can never get a read-out of the signal strength. Is it proper to be using two bridge units or do I need to use an AP with a bridge on the remote side only?
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Re: wireless bridge problems

I been following the steps on the manual and when i connect the drive station to thr router and then to the bride, i set the como. to recive an IP via DHCP, then when I go to the web browser i type 192.168.1.250
and it displays that i can not show the webpage

what do i do, can some one help me.

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Re: wireless bridge problems

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I been following the steps on the manual and when i connect the drive station to thr router and then to the bride, i set the como. to recive an IP via DHCP, then when I go to the web browser i type 192.168.1.250
and it displays that i can not show the webpage
Try this...
  • Turn off any wireless your PC may have on.
  • Give your PC a static IP of 192.168.1.6 and a netmask of 255.0.0.0
  • Connect your PC directly to the bridge (NO router).
  • Browse to http://192.168.1.250 (if you have the WGA600N)
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Re: wireless bridge problems

According to the manual, you must configure the Bridge thruogh the router before you configure the router. Once the router is configured, it can't talk to the bridge any more. As an alternative, connect your bridge directly to you computer to configure it. (Some have said this doesn't work, so I recommend following the instructions, with the caveat below.


When configuring your wireless router, the configured WIRELESS BRIDGE MUST NOT BE CONNECTED TO THE ROUTER WITH A WIRE (which might be the case if you just finished configuring the bridge). If you leave it connected, as soon as the router setup connects it wirelessly to the bridge, you get a zillion packets flowing around wire cloggig the router's buffer, so it dies and needs to be power-cycled.

There is a problem with the documentation for the 2010 Veteran Team wireless setup. (2009 documentation is OK; Rookie does not have this problem)

Recommended change to 2010 Documentation:

Section 2, page 47, section 2.10.2 Insert Step:
0. Disconnect the Ethernet cable between the WGA600N wireless bridge and the WRT610N wireless router

Note: waiting until step 10 as implied in the documentation only works if you type and click really fast because the buffers start filling at step 6.
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Re: wireless bridge problems

Just so that someone reading this thread that is really new to networking understands what is happening, I'm going to state the what many of us think is obvious:

You can only have communications between devices that are on the same network.

If your computer has it's ethernet port set to 192.168.1.x and the netmask is 255.255.255.0 you can communicate with any other device on 192.168.1.xxx where xxx = 1-254

As soon as you reconfigure a router, bridge, or computer to a different network by changing it's IP address and netmask to something like 10.xx.xx.xx and a netmask of 255.0.0.0, you will lose the ability to communicate with it. This happens when you save the settings in the router/bridge and it reboots.

You can't reestablish the link until you change the computer's IP address and netmask to match the new network.

10.xx.xx.xx with a netmask of 255.0.0.0 can work with any combination of IPs in the 10.xx.xx.xx block, far more than the 192.168.1.xx example. That's necessary because of the wide range of IPs due to team numbers.

The bridge is configured first, because it will not be able to communicate with either the computer or the router once it's network changes, until both the computer and router are changed.

The router is configured next, because it is still communicating with the computer.

Lastly, you change the IP address on the computer and everyone should now communicate on the 10.x.x.x net.

The only DHCP service is in the router (if it is turned on) I don't believe the bridge has it. So you shouldn't rely on that, except for maybe multiple programming computers that don't run the dashboard. But get fixed addressing working first. (Setting your computer's interface to "Automatically get IP address" is a DHCP client not service.)

It doesn't much matter whether you configure the bridge while connected to the router or directly to the computer as long as you can find it's current IP address. As timberger pointed out, you can get a feedback path later if it is plugged into the router.

If you have previously configured the bridge, or tried to configure it, it may not be on the default address. The only way to be sure it is found at 192.168.1.250 is a hard reset by pressing the reset button for 20-30 seconds.

The same thing goes for the router and it's default address.

It is difficult to configure the bridge or router using wireless because for security reasons, the administration interface is usually disabled from the wireless side of things. That's why the need for plugging in the bridge with a cable during the configuration.

If you understand all of this, you may be able to wing it through the setup by yourself. If not sure, you absolutely need to follow the instructions in the controls set-up explicitly, step-by-step, possibly with the exception of the correction of unplugging the bridge earlier than indicated.
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