Go to Post The strength of an alliance is not defined strictly by the sum of its parts. - Jared Russell [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > Robot Showcase
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2010, 02:30
jason701802's Avatar
jason701802 jason701802 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0753 (The High Desert Droids)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Oregon/Univ. of Southern Calif.
Posts: 234
jason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant future
Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

The title really says it all, here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z--8Pb5tb1c
__________________
Jason
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2010, 23:51
PaW's Avatar
PaW PaW is offline
Registered User
AKA: Paul W
FRC #1899 (Saints Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 175
PaW has a spectacular aura aboutPaW has a spectacular aura about
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Nice save at the 1:40 mark! Speed control and driver practice will be key to avoid an "end over".
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:22
V_Chip's Avatar
V_Chip V_Chip is offline
Back in action.
AKA: Victor
FRC #0175 (Buzz Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 225
V_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud of
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

The ability to sit at the top of the hump and move laterally has the potential to be a great defensive advantage
__________________
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:27
jason701802's Avatar
jason701802 jason701802 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0753 (The High Desert Droids)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Oregon/Univ. of Southern Calif.
Posts: 234
jason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant future
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaW View Post
Nice save at the 1:40 mark! Speed control and driver practice will be key to avoid an "end over".
yes they will, we are actually looking into putting an accelerometer on it to automatically transition us back onto the flat ground.
__________________
Jason
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:27
lenny8's Avatar
lenny8 lenny8 is online now
Aww Yea
AKA: L-Deezy
FRC #1018 (Robodevils)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 235
lenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to behold
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

not to be mr. negative bot id be surprised if u don't tip at least once during regionals.
__________________
Learn something, Know Something, Do something
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:29
V_Chip's Avatar
V_Chip V_Chip is offline
Back in action.
AKA: Victor
FRC #0175 (Buzz Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 225
V_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud of
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

You might look into lowering your CG. However that will affect your entire configuration it seems
__________________
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:39
CraigHickman
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector MycroftH View Post
The ability to sit at the top of the hump and move laterally has the potential to be a great defensive advantage
Until a traction bot slams into a strafing robot and flips it. Keep in mind that Mecanums are insanely maneuverable, but can be pushed around by almost any other drive system.

Especially tracks.

Last edited by CraigHickman : 04-02-2010 at 02:05.
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:43
V_Chip's Avatar
V_Chip V_Chip is offline
Back in action.
AKA: Victor
FRC #0175 (Buzz Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 225
V_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud ofV_Chip has much to be proud of
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

However the other team may risk the consequence of a penalty. . . IF the contact is outside of bumper perimeter.

Good point though
__________________
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:43
Rion Atkinson's Avatar
Rion Atkinson Rion Atkinson is offline
The CAD Guy
no team
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 386
Rion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHickman View Post
Until a tracked bot slams into a strafing robot and flips it. Keep in mind that Mecanums are insanely maneuverable, but can be pushed around by almost any other drive system.

Especially tracks.
That's where the fast eye comes in handy. And hand...

Basically, as long as you can see that it is coming, it should be to much of a problem.
__________________
‎‎"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein
Start Something

Email - rionatkinson@gmail.com
Skype - Rion.Atkinson
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:44
jason701802's Avatar
jason701802 jason701802 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0753 (The High Desert Droids)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Oregon/Univ. of Southern Calif.
Posts: 234
jason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant future
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

The CG will be significantly lower in the final bot, the electronics board is going to be at about the level of the bottom of the transmissions and there is a scoring mechanism going in as well. The electronics board was just put where it is to get our bot up and running so we can get some practice driving it.

Who can figure out what the plywood came from?
__________________
Jason
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:47
vhcook's Avatar
vhcook vhcook is online now
Reader of Things
AKA: Victoria
FRC #1939 (Kuh-nig-its)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 546
vhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond reputevhcook has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

I'm a little concerned by a couple of the hops your electronics rig took. I'd recommend restraining the battery a bit more, and giving the delicate parts on the cRIO some overhead protection in the event your driver or software doesn't pull off the save next time. I realize you're testing, but nothing on that board is a cheap replacement. If you roll the robot and weight ends up on, for example, the analog breakout, it will bend and/or break.
__________________


  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 00:47
CraigHickman
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector MycroftH View Post
However the other team may risk the consequence of a penalty. . . IF the contact is outside of bumper perimeter.

Good point though
The bumper zone does not apply when on the bump.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly Famous View Post
That's where the fast eye comes in handy. And hand...

Basically, as long as you can see that it is coming, it should be to much of a problem.
Ah, but as long as a defender is causing a team to focus on anything other than scoring, their job is successful.

Besides, all it takes is one solid push to tip a robot on the ramp over.

Jason-

Do you guys happen to have any footage of the bot driving around in the open? I always love seeing Mecanums systems drive, as they're always so fluid looking when they translate around.
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 01:01
jason701802's Avatar
jason701802 jason701802 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0753 (The High Desert Droids)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Oregon/Univ. of Southern Calif.
Posts: 234
jason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant futurejason701802 has a brilliant future
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by vhcook View Post
I'm a little concerned by a couple of the hops your electronics rig took. I'd recommend restraining the battery a bit more, and giving the delicate parts on the cRIO some overhead protection in the event your driver or software doesn't pull off the save next time. I realize you're testing, but nothing on that board is a cheap replacement. If you roll the robot and weight ends up on, for example, the analog breakout, it will bend and/or break.
As you may have noticed, we did have people running back and forth to help keep the bot from tipping. We actually did tip the bot during this testing (the spotters weren't paying enough attention), but luckily the only damage was one of the screws on the D-sub connector got bent. We are done testing over the bump until everything is in its final place.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHickman View Post
Do you guys happen to have any footage of the bot driving around in the open? I always love seeing Mecanums systems drive, as they're always so fluid looking when they translate around.
sorry, i don't have any good footage of it running around in the open.
__________________
Jason
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 01:02
Vikesrock's Avatar
Vikesrock Vikesrock is offline
Team 2175 Founder
AKA: Kevin O'Connor
no team
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 3,305
Vikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond reputeVikesrock has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Vikesrock Send a message via MSN to Vikesrock Send a message via Yahoo to Vikesrock
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaW View Post
Nice save at the 1:40 mark! Speed control and driver practice will be key to avoid an "end over".
Looks like the robot almost flipped because it was put into reverse when the back end was up in the air.
__________________


2007 Wisconsin Regional Highest Rookie Seed & Regional Finalists (Thanks 930 & 2039)
2008 MN Regional Semifinalists (Thanks 2472 & 1756)
2009 Northstar Regional Semifinalists (Thanks 171 & 525)
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2010, 01:41
Fe_Will's Avatar
Fe_Will Fe_Will is offline
Registered User
AKA: Will
FRC #0955 (CV Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Corvallis, OR
Posts: 168
Fe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud ofFe_Will has much to be proud of
Re: Team 753 short and wide mecanum over the bump

Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHickman View Post
Until a tracked bot slams into a strafing robot and flips it. Keep in mind that Mecanums are insanely maneuverable, but can be pushed around by almost any other drive system.

Especially tracks.
We'll see how the tracks vs mecanum ends up Feb. 20th. I'm looking forward to seeing that little creation you've had a hand in. Until then, I like what 753 has been gracious enough to post (minus the near tip).
__________________
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FRC488 Driving Over the Bump Madison Robot Showcase 27 03-02-2010 04:40
2481 Drives Over the Bump with Mecanum Wheels kylelanman Robot Showcase 13 02-02-2010 00:53
DiscoBots Omni Drive over Bump lynca Robot Showcase 26 20-01-2010 00:51
Over the bump or under the tower quinxorin Rules/Strategy 44 18-01-2010 14:17
Image Discuss: Team 753 Working on the Stacker CD47-Bot Robot Showcase 2 22-02-2003 01:05


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:02.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi