GDC at it again!

[IndySam]

Regarding Spike Relay Module

Are the Spike Relay Modules allowed to control the window motors?
Besides the air compressor what other motors may the Spike control?
Is there a maximum number of Spikes allowed on the robot?

TNX


GDC

Re: Regarding Spike Relay Module
1 - Yes.
2 - Under Rule <R55>, any motor other than the CIM motor and Fisher-Price motor may be controlled by either a relay module or a speed controller.
3 - While there is no rule that explicitly addresses this, by our calculations the maximum number of Spikes that can be contained within the NORMAL CONFIGURATION volume/weight constraints is 883. However, it is noted that the budget limitations of Rule <R22> would limit you to no more than 102 Spikes on a single ROBOT.

[sportzkrazzy]

O no only 102!!!!! but our design calls for 103....

[MrForbes]

Notice they did not mention anything about all those Spikes being connected to anything....

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by squirrel

Notice they did not mention anything about all those Spikes being connected to anything....

We plan to use about 40 of them for ballast.

[sportzkrazzy]

yeah we where going to use them to make weight... at .12 lbs they are really heavy for the price and we need all the weight we can get. Now where did that sarcasm emote go.....

[Nick Lawrence]

I was planning on building a wedge with ~35 spikes for more loft on the ball.

-Nick

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence

I was planning on building a wedge with ~35 spikes for more loft on the ball.

-Nick

Don't pop the ball with all those spikes!

[Phoenix Spud]

Now what about those Vics? And Jags?

[fsgond]

All motors must be run through victors or jags, minus a very few exceptions.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by fsgond

All motors must be run through victors or jags, minus a very few exceptions.

Not quite correct.

All CIM and FP motors must run on victors or Jags. All other FRC legal motors may be run on spikes.

[Matt C]

Originally Posted by sportzkrazzy

Now where did that sarcasm emote go.....

What you need is the SarcMark!

[BrendanB]

Wow, part of me wonders how much time they have on their hands these days!?

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

Wow, part of me wonders how much time they have on their hands these days!?

A quick 120 second calculation is all you need to come up with those numbers. The GDC also hasn't taken into account what constitutes a ROBOT. Their numbers are based upon figures that exclude any scheme to put the spikes together. Thus this supposed spike-only robot has no left over money/weight cost for glue, or even a cardboard box. Since that would take too long to get set up on the field (stacking 2 spikes is a pain, let alone 102...), I conjecture a KOP frame + spike-only robot could not pass inspection.

Thus we need to take 1 spike away and use the extra $ for fishing line to tie them all together on a KOP frame. 101 spikes ... time to take stock in IFI!

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Their numbers are based upon figures that exclude any scheme to put the spikes together. Thus this supposed spike-only robot has no left over money/weight cost for glue, or even a cardboard box.

The fastener/adhesive exemption <R23-C> could be used here to find a way to cobble them all together.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by JesseK

A quick 120 second calculation is all you need to come up with those numbers. The GDC also hasn't taken into account what constitutes a ROBOT. Their numbers are based upon figures that exclude any scheme to put the spikes together. Thus this supposed spike-only robot has no left over money/weight cost for glue, or even a cardboard box. Since that would take too long to get set up on the field (stacking 2 spikes is a pain, let alone 102...), I conjecture a KOP frame + spike-only robot could not pass inspection.

Thus we need to take 1 spike away and use the extra $ for fishing line to tie them all together on a KOP frame. 101 spikes ... time to take stock in IFI!

Its more the fact of when asked how many spikes are allowed on the robot, they don't come up with a number for all of the motors and pnuematics, they use the weight of the spikes to determine enough needed to fill 120lbs.

GDC member: "Hey guys since it is February and half way through build season, can we start adding some humor in our answers?"
Everyone else: "OH YES!"