[FTC]: Questions From a New Team

[FLHSFTC]

Hello, this is the Francis Lewis robotics team and it is out first year participating in FTC. Our FTC group consists of about 10 members, and we are not sure about a few things.

1 Are there any other forums/resources for FTC that are active?

2. FRC had a lot of freedom to manufacture parts out of anything that was not prohibitively expensive. FTC has many restrictions and we are not sure about the following:

a) We want to put a curve ramp similar to a snow plow blade. What material is needed to build it and how do you suggest we build it?

b) How can we extend the frame, specifically the base of the robot? We wanted to extend the robot's frame after the match starts in order to increase the ball capacity.

Thank you in advance for your time.
-FLHS

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by FLHSFTC

a) We want to put a curve ramp similar to a snow plow blade. What material is needed to build it and how do you suggest we build it?

b) How can we extend the frame, specifically the base of the robot? We wanted to extend the robot's frame after the match starts in order to increase the ball capacity.

Thank you in advance for your time.
-FLHS

Hello, and welcome to ChiefDelphi As the coach for a fairly successful FTC team, I believe I can help.

a.) Lexan or sheet Aluminum. Be sure to look at the rules for allowed thicknesses. Be sure to round off corners and file down the sharp edges. Lexan has a tendency to keep its shape if you heat it up while you bend it. Aluminum is typically easier to work with in general so long as you're careful about sharp corners/edges.
b.) Ya know, the students on 1885 argued this for 2 months. Some argued it so fervently that 1 month before their first competition they had nothing built (except for a standard drive train). I walked in one day and told them to simplify the design or they were all fired [from the metaphorical company they worked for]. They did that and have had alot of success since that day. So perhaps you could look at a slightly revised strategy, a different way to expand ball capacity, or ignore ball capacity in general.

Hint: investigate crocheting your own net using the allowed rope. It's not always a good idea, but maybe it fits your design. In the offseason perhaps you could investigate a linear slide, folding, or other system.

Good luck!

[FLHSFTC]

Thank you very much for the reply, you were pretty helpful with the contribution to the idea to make the robot.

Lately we have been working on the mechanism that picks up the balls, but we have had some difficulties. Later on we will post a video on youtube.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5907/img4665do.jpg
The picture above is a picture of the picking up mechanism. This picking up mechnism has problems. The main problem is trying to make the rubberband as you can see above stay still during action. When we run the rubber band, the rubber bands move to one side making the clump together in the end. Please post any ideas or any thoughts on the matter.


On a brighter note we have built a working shooting mechanism. We will try to have a video link later on to show how the shooter works in action.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6172/img4668v.jpg

[buddyb]

After arguing on point b for two months and getting fired, 1885 actually found that our robot's mechanisms allow for plenty of ball storage. We have no 'devoted' place to store wiffle balls, but because of how they travel through our robot, we found that we don't really need extra storage.

Unless your bot is centered around getting all of its balls in the outer goal, in which case you'll probably want to store around 30 balls to comfortably win every game (DE's max score didn't break 200, if I recall) without the use of the yellow ball, then don't worry *a ton* about ball storage. If you can hold a rack and your 8 preloaded, you'll do fine.

(On another note, I'm still employed in said company, thankfully).

Best of luck to your team. ^^

[ttldomination]

Originally Posted by FLHSFTC

1 Are there any other forums/resources for FTC that are active?

2. FRC had a lot of freedom to manufacture parts out of anything that was not prohibitively expensive. FTC has many restrictions and we are not sure about the following:

a) We want to put a curve ramp similar to a snow plow blade. What material is needed to build it and how do you suggest we build it?

b) How can we extend the frame, specifically the base of the robot? We wanted to extend the robot's frame after the match starts in order to increase the ball capacity.

Thank you in advance for your time.
-FLHS

1) RobotC forums are pretty active, but that's primarily for RobotC programming. I'm not aware of any other forums.

2a) You can use lexlan or the metal sheets that are allowed this year.

2b) Extending the *frame* is not easy, I'm not even sure it's possible with the lack of sliders and stuff. I recommend experimenting with expanding storage such as expandable buckets made from rope, lexlan, or rubber bands.

Good luck.

[FLHSFTC]

Thank you very much for replying back to our questions. We decided to use the aluminum sheet. We will post pictures of our progress soon.

We have made a system to pick up the balls, but we have techinical difficulties.The picture below shows how the design of the picking up mechanism looks like:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5907/img4665do.jpg

The problem that occured in the pick-up system is that even with the slightest push, the ruber bands move to one side and eventually tangle up. We were hoping for some ideas or suggestions.

On the bright side we have a shooting system that works efficiently:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9587/img4667p.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6172/img4668v.jpg

We will post videos on youtube shortly.

[FLHSFTC]

Today we found a solution to the problem that we had posted up previously. Instead of using rubberbands to pick up the balls, we had decided to use the non-slip pad, which was an usable resource that was stated in the FTC manual.

Thanks you for reading, and for the previous responses.

[Mike Betts]

Originally Posted by FLHSFTC

FTC PROGRAMMING*

We are having trouble to download the FCS Beta on the
http://ftcmastery.com/about/ftcbeta/ website
Can anyone remind us what the password is?

You should be using this site to get the FTC FCS: http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/....aspx?id=15924

Regards,

Mike