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Unread 26-08-2002, 18:46
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Dave needs to post, I know Dave knows all about this attraction!!!

DAVE, WHERE ARE YOU?!?!
I will tell him to check this when I goto his house in a bit.

edit And MattK,you can edit posts and add information later, rather then just posting again.


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I still say it has to be a drop-tower, even if it's underground. Freefall/weightlessness cannot be simulated in a virtual enviroment. It would also make sense for a ride sequence to be: take an elevator down "to the shuttle", shoot up as take-off, shoot down for weightlessness, rise up to simulate thrusters, and then you're at the space station. Get "beamed" back to Earth and then proceed to the gift shop.
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Has anyone thought of that you might be leaning backwards, like your body resting on your back, and you could possible be pulled around in a cirlce.
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Unread 26-08-2002, 20:11
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I still say it has to be a drop-tower, even if it's underground. Freefall/weightlessness cannot be simulated in a virtual enviroment.
I Promise it's not a drop tower.

Promise, promise, promise, promise.

Seriously. It's not. It's 4 centrifuges. I can't believe you people are going to make me find the photo.

www.wdwmagic.com , forgive me for leeching this:



This is a satellite photo that clearly shows four circles, each for a centrifuge. You can see the Mission: Space construction site between the yellow dome (The Wonders of Life Pavilion) and Test Track on the right.

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It would also make sense for a ride sequence to be: take an elevator down "to the shuttle", shoot up as take-off, shoot down for weightlessness, rise up to simulate thrusters, and then you're at the space station. Get "beamed" back to Earth and then proceed to the gift shop.
It would make perfect sense - IF you're talking about Six Flags over Anywhere. That's how Six Flags, Cedar Fair, etc., handle their theming.

Suit #1 - "Hey, our new S&S Combo tower shoots riders up and down."

Suit #2 - "Hey, the Space Shuttle goes up and down!!!!"

Suit #1 - " "

Opening Day: "Mommy, mommy, let's go ride Mission: Space"

At Disney, thankfully, they still do things a *little* bit differently. At least, on most occassions.

I can't say for sure that Mission: Space will live on in the tradition of other great, story driven Disney attractions, like Pirates of the Caribbean, or Haunted Mansion, or Spaceship Earth. I can say, though, the centrifuge pods will rotate around the center axis, and will also have at least one other axis of rotation - and they will contain a video screen. There exists, at least, the opportunity to tell a real, compelling story - and make it something much more than a thrill ride.

Did I mention yet that it's *not* a drop tower? Disney, as rich as they are, would just as soon dig a 200' deep hole as they would green-light a copy of DisneySea for Orlando. It ain't happenin'.

Sadly, they'd build up first.

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Matt, you finally have a point That works reasonably nicely, actually.

Let's see what Dave has to say about it, though.
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maybe those are very very large holes for a ton of cement for foundations to support a big drop tower
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maybe those are very very large holes for a ton of cement for foundations to support a big drop tower
tusche (i can't spell and i'm not french)
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Centrifuges can only provide modification of lateral forces. THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN SIMULATE WEIGHTLESSNESS. I'll meet you halfway, however, and provide the possibility that while spinning one would also go some-what up and down to simulate weightlessness and thrusters. I'm sticking with the theory that it will end in a giftshop, however.

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I'm sticking with the theory that it will end in a giftshop, however.
Well if the ride didn't end in a giftshop, it wouldn't be in disney
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maybe those are very very large holes for a ton of cement for foundations to support a big drop tower
Better be a LOT of cement, seeing as how Disney is built on top of a swamp and is sinking every day!
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How do you know those circles arent where the four planets are?? And maybe it is a ride like enterprise where it starts flat and then raises to the point where it is perpendicular to the ground and then starts spinning really fast. For all we know it could just be a threater attraction.
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And how do you explain the ring of concrete in this picture???
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i miss the natl's i wish it was april all over again. my first year in florida with 522 was cool, eventfull, and in a way historical for my team. since this year was the first year we actually did superb we wouldve enjoyed going to the finals but our coaches not to be mean were acting like (poop chutes). back in march we blew a tranny in NYC reg. the problem was not just our tranny; soon after we broke a bearing. the hardest part was repairing with only 3 guys. myself, matt c. and joe c. with some time and spare parts and hands given to us by 694 we were able to fix the tranny within 30 minutes. and the bearing we replaced b4 going to columbia univ. for the comp. the coaches didn't find out what happened till like 12 am. that night as a result they were a lil upset that "we" took apart the robot and attempted to fix it. in april at the natl's the same thing happened. tranny blew and that was it. that happened the last match b4 the pick happened. we had at least 45 min. to repair the damage but the coaches told us no. leave the robot alone. so we did. and we suffered. if we woulda fixed the robot we coulda made the finals. stupid stupid coaches. anyway cool lookign ride. something to look forward to april 2003
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Brandon - PPPPP

Seeing as the ride's already been tested, and there's no super-huge ugly towers, it's not a drop ride.

SlamminSammy - it will APPROXIMATE weightlessness. Disney is about telling a story. Often, it's an illusion, but it often works, too.

http://www.etcusa.com/ats/ats_gfet.htm

That's the company that was contracted to provide the simulators. Disney has a higher capacity version of those that I linked to. They can rotate on a second axis. They can APPROXIMATE weightlessness.

Trust me. This stuff gets thought up and rigged up and ridden and tested and examined and reexamined 40 billion times before an attraction is given the green light. It can be done.

The four rings are for the centrifuges. The second ring you showed was for one of the planets.

If you want to poke fun, go ahead.

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The four rings are for the centrifuges. The second ring you showed was for one of the planets.
Like you said that was for one of the splanets so what is to say that the rest arent for the other 3 planets???
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