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Unread 09-02-2010, 22:01
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Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

I'm a rookie scouting coordinator for my team this year, and seeking input and/or some constructive criticism on my scouting system ive developed for this year. Attached are the sheets ive made for my team to do their scouting, both match and pit. My system involves randomly pairing up my team members with each other, then randomly assigning them teams that they have to fill out a pit scouting sheet for. Then that same pair of people will randomly be assigned certain matches that they have to scout during and a specific alliance station they have to scout for where they will fill out a match scouting sheet (attached below) based on the directions (match scouting sheet directions) The match assignment sheet i have attached should help to better show what i am trying to explain. any input would be very helpful, thanks
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File Type: pdf 2010 match scouting sheet.pdf (106.6 KB, 199 views)
File Type: pdf 2010 Match Scouting Sheet directions.pdf (110.3 KB, 145 views)
File Type: pdf 2010 Scouting assignment sheet.pdf (19.5 KB, 115 views)
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

the scout sheets look very nice and professional... one thing that i recommend is that you make the playfield diagram a little bigger... i was a scout for my team last year and i found using a small field diagram can be a little tricky... looks good though...
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

thats what some of my team members told me as well, but ive stretched the field diagram as far as i can while still keeping it to one page
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

Also on your match scoring sheet I would add a spot for match number. Looks like a great start so far!
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

updated version of my match scouting sheet
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

second one looks much better... good luck this year
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

It like a great system depending on how many people you have to help you scout. Last year we had papers to fill out with a similar amount of information and we had to have quite a few people helping along with our scouting team to be able to fill it al out, so as long as you have enough people you should be fine. Nice job!
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

For your Pit scouting I think you captured most of the relevant information except for Autonomous Period. If you added a section asking what Autonomous routines the team had that would round out your sheets.

The other issue I had with your Pit scouting sheet is the part where the team signs off on the sheet. What was your reasoning behind asking for that?

As for your match scouting sheet the information is extremely subjective. I have found in the past that if the scouting sheet is too subjective than you cannot determine a realistic account of what the robot can and cannot do.

What I would suggest is for the match scouting sheet come up with some more questions that ask for objective results (# Balls scored, # balls kicked, etc...)
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

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For your Pit scouting I think you captured most of the relevant information except for Autonomous Period. If you added a section asking what Autonomous routines the team had that would round out your sheets.

The other issue I had with your Pit scouting sheet is the part where the team signs off on the sheet. What was your reasoning behind asking for that?
1. autonomus is not included on the pit scouting sheet because last year when i was working with the scouting team instead of leading it i found that we would get inaccurate descriptions (if any) for autonomus.

2. the signature is there in an attempt to crack down on people that slack off and do not do their pit scouting because last year the scouting team would hand out clip boards with blank forms and get them back with the same blank forms. At the worst, mentors from my team found clip boards with blank forms scattered around the arena.
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

.pdf version of the scouting presentation i plan on giving to my team, any thoughts?
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

Autonomous header is spelled wrong. Thought you ought to know.
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

I agree what was said before with the subjectivity to your match scouting sheet. If you make it easy and just allow the scouters to just circle things like did the robot hang? yes/no. how many balls kicked? ___ how many balls scored? ___ any penalties? yes/no final score blue____ red____, etc.. This will give you better data for alliance selection and will make it easier and faster to filter through than, this robot moved forward in autonomous and then they moved around and kicked some balls and then they did this and then they did that then they tried to hang, overall I'd say this was a good robot.... numbers are better than peoples opinion and if you give a set place where the numbers will always be it will allow everything to be accumulated faster when you want stats on a team and stuff for matches and alliance selection
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Autonomous header is spelled wrong. Thought you ought to know.
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I agree what was said before with the subjectivity to your match scouting sheet. If you make it easy and just allow the scouters to just circle things like did the robot hang? yes/no. how many balls kicked? ___ how many balls scored? ___ any penalties? yes/no final score blue____ red____, etc..
thats what my original draft of the sheet was like, mentors from my team wanted it more open-ended for strategy purposes
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Re: Rookie scouting coordinator requesting input

Maybe combine both then? Circles + numbers with room for explanation?
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Maybe combine both then? Circles + numbers with room for explanation?
there was something like that on the sheets last year, from my viewpoint working with the scouting team last year it did not work out very good
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