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Legal Solenoid

Hello. I have checked the numbers and it appears that this solenoid is legal to use. I just wanted to see what other people think just to see if I may have missed something. Thanks for any help.

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Re: Legal Solenoid

Anyone????
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Re: Legal Solenoid

I don't see anything that would necessarily make it illegal. Just make sure to bring the spec sheet to competition so your inspectors can verify this.
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Re: Legal Solenoid

If there is any question in your mind about the legality of the part, and you want an answer you can rely upon if a question is raised by the inspectors, then you really need to ask this question in the official Q&A forum. Any answer you get here is, by definition, unofficial and carries no weight with the inspectors, judges or referees. Plus, some of the self-appointed CD rule experts* have been known to get things flat out wrong on a reasonably regular basis. Using the line "but they said it was a legal part on Chief Delphi!" will cut it with an inspector when there is a concern over a critical part of your robot.

Make no mistake, these Chief Delphi boards are an excellent place to get technical information, design advice, strategy insights, and access to the larger FIRST community and everything they do. Almost every team with a serious level of involvement with FIRST does just that. It is just that CD is the wrong place to get specific answers about rules and rule interpretations that may be critical to your ability to pass inspection or legally play the game. For those types of questions, you really need to utilize the FIRST Q&A.

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Re: Legal Solenoid

I am not a pneumatics expert, nor the GDC, but it looks legal to me. 24VDC operating voltage, less than .3 Cv (.2), 1/8 NPT ports, rated at 150 psi, which exceeds 125 psi requirement. COTS item. Bring specs with you when you go for inspection to validate with your inspector. This is covered in Rule R72-C. If anyone else sees something I have missed, please respond quickly.
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