2010 FLORIDA REGIONAL

[vic burg]

Um.... only 49 days untilt he regional!? When did that happen!?!?!?!

[gorrilla]

Ahh, its going to be insane this year.....

This now may be one of the hardest regionals in FIRST.

On a side note.....anyone want to trade shirts?

[goodsky]

I'm always up for shirt trading! See me at our pit! Also...

Bacon is pumped to see all our old friends again along with anyone we haven't befriended yet at Florida!!!
Personally I'm looking forward to another exciting and LOUD robotics event!

OINK OINK BOOM!!!

The first cheer of many to come!

[Andrew Remmers]

I agree with Skyler Florida is going to be Epic this year can't wait to see everyone again

OINK OINK BOOM!

[vic burg]

22 days left!!!!!! OMG!

[Josh Drake]

Originally Posted by gorrilla

Ahh, its going to be insane this year.....

This now may be one of the hardest regionals in FIRST.

That's the main reason for going the distance, compete with the best!
I can't wait to see that 118 machine up close, looks epic

[Mahekp15]

Team 442, Redstone Robotics are ready to go and ready for competition, so we will be happy to meet new teams, Will be happy to meet all the teams down there.

[timmymr]

Team 69 will be back after a one year hiatus. Im psyched for the warm weather =)

[sportzkrazzy]

Competition is going to be insane!!!

[wendymom]

YOU ARE INVITED!!!


To the 2nd Annual Unofficial Florida Regional Team Social
Hosted by FRC Team 1902 Exploding Bacon

When: Wednesday, March 10th 6:30 –9

Where: The Orange County Extension Building, home of Exploding Bacon:
6021 South Conway Road
Orlando, FL 32812-3604

What: Dinner (Bar B Que and trimmings), Games, Ultimate Frisbee , Socializing and a good time to be had by all

How Much: 10.00 per person

Please RSVP to popvideo@earthlink.net for head count purposes. Please come and join us.

[Josh Drake]

Originally Posted by wendymom

YOU ARE INVITED!!!


To the 2nd Annual Unofficial Florida Regional Team Social
Hosted by FRC Team 1902 Exploding Bacon

When: Wednesday, March 10th 6:30 –9

Where: The Orange County Extension Building, home of Exploding Bacon:
6021 South Conway Road
Orlando, FL 32812-3604

What: Dinner (Bar B Que and trimmings), Games, Ultimate Frisbee , Socializing and a good time to be had by all

How Much: 10.00 per person

Please RSVP to popvideo@earthlink.net for head count purposes. Please come and join us.

Sounds like fun, and the students are interested. I'll get a head count at tonight's meeting. After a 10 hour car trip they will need to blow off some energy. What better way than Ultimate Frisbee!

[redbarron]

1270 will be there again this year. Looking forward to the regional..... Just not too excited about the 24 hour bus ride

Good Luck to everyone

[Swampdude]

Hey Florida Coaches, Drivers, Scouts and Strategists, most of you are probably aware of the seeding point rules that favor the losing teams. However many teams at their week 1 regionals found that most teams thought that just winning matches would rank them higher in seeding. There are strategies that work in all teams favor to take advantage of these rules during seeding matches where teams must score in the opponents goals to optimize their own alliances seeding scores. This is confusing and upsetting a lot of teams and I would like to preemptively nip any of that in the bud so there's no confrontations at the regional as to getting everyone to work together (either 6v0 or 3v3). Can we have a discussion about this and see where people stand on this issue? There's only a couple days left to work out whether we are going to:

a) use these rules to our advantage
b) agree to disagree and protest
c) see if we can come up with our own gentlemens agreement for some compromise that we can all live with
d) FIRST will make a change in the rules - which most people don't think will happen.
e) another idea?

Please don't shoot the messenger! I'm just trying to minimize the confusion and strife. I'm aware there are many strategies a team can employ that don't involve working in advance with the opponents but the fact that there are is why I'm posting this.

[EricS-Team180]

Originally Posted by Swampdude

...aware of the seeding point rules that favor the losing teams.

There are strategies that work in all teams favor to take advantage of these rules during seeding matches where teams must score in the opponents goals to optimize their own alliances seeding scores.

No shooting Dan... leaves me with the same taste in my mouth as the 2001 "Love Fest"

Warren and George have been looking at this all season. I'll let them do the talking...but suffice it to say that I prefer head-to-head competition and simple win-lose-draw seeding.


...case in point: Got a call, Saturday, from Gary Dillard who now mentors a Huntsville area team. He was at the Bayou Regional. The team next to them in the pit, did not get there 'bot past inspection until after the end of Qual rounds. They seeded 8th.

The prosecution rests...


On a more positive note: I am really looking forward to the field of teams coming to the Florida Regional. Drive 'em like ya stole 'em teams!

[Gabe Salas Jr.]

Originally Posted by Swampdude

a) use these rules to our advantage
b) agree to disagree and protest
c) see if we can come up with our own gentlemens agreement for some compromise that we can all live with
d) FIRST will make a change in the rules - which most people don't think will happen.
e) another idea?

Please don't shoot the messenger! I'm just trying to minimize the confusion and strife. I'm aware there are many strategies a team can employ that don't involve working in advance with the opponents but the fact that there are is why I'm posting this.

Dan - thank you for bringing this up.

Honestly I can go as far to say that the ranking system reminds me of exactly what happened back in 2003. That year in Florida, and along with the other Week 2 regionals, teams recognized that in order to move up in ranking, they had to work together.

That weekend, the UCF Regional set the national high score of 233 (coincidently).

It became apparent to the rest of the teams that in order to catch up, they too had to work together. This set the pace for the rest of the weeks of competition.

I honestly feel that we would be doing ourselves a dis-service by not taking advantage of the rules mainly since we will not be training our teams to be prepared for other regionals and perhaps even the championship event.

Unless FIRST explicitly changes the rules, I say to stick to them. And if the rules change it has to change during Week 2.

With that said, I'm well aware that in some matches it may not be advantageous to do a "6vs0" strategy. That is fine, it is part of the game. It is just difficult for others to accept this type of gameplay because of our upbringing through sports of 2 clear opposing forces and a well defined winner & loser.