HAM Radio exam

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

Mark,
First off, congratulations on wanting to become a ham. WB9UVJ here, Extra Class.
US hams can also check the CQ magazine http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/ and QST magazine http://www.arrl.org/ websites for info and links to sample tests.

This weekend driving home from up north I was listening on the scanner to one of the Ham/Canwarn frequencies and this now semi-retired electrical engineering professor was talking to someone who had the basic licence and wanted to get the advanced and as he was going through all the formulas and everything I soon realized that the best way to pass this exam is to take electrical engineering first, there's a lot you have to know.

[Rick TYler]

If you don't learn Morse, it's not really a ham license.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Mark,
It's not that hard. I have not taken the Canadian license test but it surely must be close to the US test. A little review and you will see that you already know or have heard of the majority of it. Grade school students pass it all the time. As you are studying, if you don't understand something ask. There are a lot of hams on this forum and myself and Don Rotolo I am sure will help you as well as about 100 other hams here.

[ebarker]

How much CW activity exists today on HF ?

Ed

[Al Skierkiewicz]

It is the mode of choice for QRP and sometimes the only way to communicate in this low sunspot cycle that seems to be lagging forever. Certainly not as much as when you could only use CW as a novice or tech.

[Foster]

One of the cool events you can hold is a "Ham Cram" session. This is where they go over the basics of the test in the morning and then give the test in the afternoon. The Trenton Computer Fest did that for years. They had a good graduation success rate. While "teaching to the test" may get the ire up from others, it is a good way to get new Hams on the air.

Good luck and 73's from K3FXS.

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

Mark,
It's not that hard. I have not taken the Canadian license test but it surely must be close to the US test. A little review and you will see that you already know or have heard of the majority of it. Grade school students pass it all the time. As you are studying, if you don't understand something ask. There are a lot of hams on this forum and myself and Don Rotolo I am sure will help you as well as about 100 other hams here.

yes....I have heard that 9 year old's can pass this test as people in their 80's so I guess I just have to take the course and study, I want to do it though not just for the ham radio aspect of it but to brush up on skills in electronics and math that I have totally let slip over the 12-15 year's I've worked in news, with all those Motorola P25 encrypted and MotoTRBO systems coming online here in Ontario (end of scanning/news gathering), as well as the other troubles in the broadcasting business I have to seriously start thinking and planning for plan B, I'd love to stay with something that involves radio, electronics and technology but it's hard to get in anywhere these days.

If a plan B has to happen I want my next career to be something that I actually really enjoy doing and then it doesn't seem like work.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

If you don't learn Morse, it's not really a ham license.

Phooey! It sure is, dangnabbit.

Originally Posted by ebarker

How much CW activity exists today on HF ?

Tons, it is actually more popular than when you needed to pass a code test for your license. Just listen in the morse section of any band, 24/7. If there is propagation, you'll hear a crowded band.

Mark, if you read over the questions three or 4 times over 2-3 weeks, you'll probably pass. 9 year old or 88 year old, they have to study too. The basic electronics would be easy for an engineer, but the rules and procedures would not, so that degree won't help.

I used to run ham cram sessions, 2 hours of intense facilitated cram at the Trenton Computer Festival, and we had about a 60% pass rate (normal study results on over 90%). It works, but it is far from ideal.

Don't fret, forget about the math -just read all the questions, undertsnad what they are asking (this takes some effort, but not much), repeat 2 times, and go take the test - you'll pass.

If you need to pass morse code at 5 WPM, I can show you how, it's almost trivial.

Mark, if you read over the questions three or 4 times over 2-3 weeks, you'll probably pass. 9 year old or 88 year old, they have to study too. The basic electronics would be easy for an engineer, but the rules and procedures would not, so that degree won't help.

Thanks, I guess I am too impatient in wanting to learn this and pass in one day then, the rules and regs would be the easier part for me as I seem to remember that stuff but listing to this retired professor on the radio on the scanner last weekend although he was coaching someone for the advance licence just listening to all those formulas and PI calculations made me A: turn off all my other radios and listen intently and B: wish I was 18 years old again and in electronics engineering class

Like you say 2-3 weeks, that's realistically what I'll need and keep in mind I'm working in news and severe weather all day so I don't have as much reading time as I'd like.

I want to do it though for sure.

mark

[Al Skierkiewicz]

We'll get you through this. Then you will have to learn how to buy new toys.

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

We'll get you through this. Then you will have to learn how to buy new toys.

Buying new toys especially of the electronic variety is something I am very familiar with hence the financial mess that I am currently in

[DonRotolo]

Time is relative. Bring a study book with you, if you're on your way to a shot and not driving, read instead. After setup, waiting for control to give you the go, read. Or, put the ENG mast into some power lines, and while waiting for the fire department and ambulances, read.

Originally Posted by Don Rotolo

Time is relative. Bring a study book with you, if you're on your way to a shot and not driving, read instead. After setup, waiting for control to give you the go, read. Or, put the ENG mast into some power lines, and while waiting for the fire department and ambulances, read.

Actually, I have the one study book and that's what I've been doing and it really helps keep me awake when it's slow as well, some evenings not much happening on the scanners and we just sit there waiting for an active incident and it's easy to fall asleep but reading this book has really kept me awake, I learn better in a classroom/lecture setting though and with five radios going all the time and having to listen it's not the best scenario but not too bad.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Originally Posted by Mark Rozitis

Buying new toys especially of the electronic variety is something I am very familiar with hence the financial mess that I am currently in

That I can't help you with.

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

That I can't help you with.

Some of those ham radios are complicated to program! I remember looking at one a few years ago and it makes programming other radios feel so easy, with the scanners I use software from Butlel.nl and once you know the systems it's not hard at all.

Back when I worked one summer as a summer student at a Motorola dealer even that stuff wasn't as involved as the ham radio.

The trick there was programming everything so it would be as simple and direct as possible for the end user, whereas the little ham radio I looked at seemed to require a degree in rocket science to program, then again that's part of the hobby, makes it all interesting.

Now if they only made a radio that read MotoTRBO....I'd be a very happy camper right now.

I guess D-star is becoming popular with Ham radio now as well.