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Unread 23-02-2010, 18:49
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Re: Team Update #13

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Team Update #13 is out and available here. This should hopefully fully explain the limits and opportunities of the revised withholding allowance, and let some folks calm down a bit.




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We understand that this may appear artificially restrictive and confusing. We are not trying to be excessively particular in this area. There are specific restrictions (e.g. contractual requirements, union rules, etc.) on how complete ROBOTS are delivered to competition venues, and how they are loaded into the venues, that limit our flexibility in this area. We ask for your understanding and patience as we work through these requirements.
Nicely stated (imho). The whole rule but the example above in particular. I believe this is an excellent example of how to diffuses potentially problematic rulings.

First of all, most folks have no idea about the various constraints that FIRST is under with regard to rules, ship dates, etc.

I love that FIRST helps to educate the masses to the larger picture.

Second, I think the explanation above is great not because it explains everything, it doesn't, but because it hints at larger issues that FIRST has to consider, acknowledges that the solution is less than ideal and then asks for forbearance.

Nice. I think more rulings of this flavor and tone will go a long way to help us understand the way things work and (perhaps) accept the less than perfect world we all inhabit.

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Second, I think the explanation above is great not because it explains everything, it doesn't, but because it hints at larger issues that FIRST has to consider, acknowledges that the solution is less than ideal and then asks for forbearance.

Nice. I think more rulings of this flavor and tone will go a long way to help us understand the way things work and (perhaps) accept the less than perfect world we all inhabit.

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I'm always surprised how, when the gate appears to open, so many rush through - creating chaos and blocking the open channel. Or, when things change, so many get up in arms. Or, when help/relief is offered, minds narrow instead of expanding. The larger issues are always there and have always been there. I agree that this helps all of us remember that those exist and when trying to help/add a little relief, those still have to be respected and worked with. (I include myself in forgetting to remember the bigger picture at times and for that, I am sorry.)

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Re: Team Update #13

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Nicely stated (imho). The whole rule but the example above in particular. I believe this is an excellent example of how to diffuses potentially problematic rulings.
Yeah... what Joe says. Thank you, GDC for the explanation.

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Re: Team Update #13

I find this slightly funny because it appears that the GDC has created a loophole (teams must transport their robot in two pieces) to get around their own set of "restrictions".
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I find this slightly funny because it appears that the GDC has created a loophole (teams must transport their robot in two pieces) to get around their own set of "restrictions".
It would seem FIRST has its own set of lawyers. But I agree this is a good ruling.
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