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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

FRC Tracker 2010 v 1.3.2 is now available with event favoriting and support for getting team photos from the photo library or camera.

FRC Tracker 2009 v 1.3.2 has a bug with the team ranking view. I've asked Apple to pull it, but it's still available. We will update it soon. I recommend waiting for the next update.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

A couple of quick comments on the interface/UX from the peanut gallery…

When you switch from "Name" to "Date" sorting in the events tab, the TableView stays scrolled to the same index. It's a bit disorienting, as the relative index to the list has changed, but your position traversing it has not. In order to have any idea what's going on, you have to look at the cell's subtext, which is tiny and gray. Is this by design?

Maybe make it so a sorting change also brings you back to the top? This should be simple with a quick 'scrollToRowAtIndexPath:atScrollPosition:animated: '

Also, check out how we do event by date sorting on TBA. Breaking it up into weeks seems like a logical way to separate the events, and could be easily added with section headers. http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/

Now that I think of it, a third option to sort by region would by cool too!

Beyond those, this looks like an AWESOME app. Its almost exactly what I wanted to do with iBlueAlliance, which is currently just vaporware.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

I'm probably going to the Milwaukee regional, and will try to get pictures of each robot there for TBA. Thanks again for the App, Tom.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

Tom: Good suggestions. I'll work on those issues. Thanks!

Branden: I hope you're able to make it to a regional. Have you missed a year since you started? Thanks for thinking of collecting robot photos for Milwaukee.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

I was playng around with the 2009 version (more pictures available), and discovered that you can swipe up and down to increment and decrement teams in photo view, which is cool.

I've had two different weird bugs, but so far have not been able to reproduce them.
1st was an issue when swiping between pictures, where a picture would be replaces with a blank white area (not the "No photo available" screen)
2nd was on the team search page, where changing the search terms did not visually update the list, but if I selected a row after changing the search terms, I got the expected search result.

I I can reproduce either of these (I was using 2009 1.3.3), I'l let you know.

As far as missing regionals, I certainly have not been going every year until starting to help 1318. this will be my first time going to a regional where I'm not a member of a team. There's only one team in my city (1306), and I want to go introduce myself to them, so I have a team for next year.

Just before hitting post, I did find one issue:
in 2009, go (for example) to the Boston regional, and update team photos
on the MA Teams page, select the photo for Team 88 and swipe down. Team 69 is displayed (this is expected, as 69 is the next lower team number in MA 2009)
go back to the MA Teams list, and select team 88's normal (non picture) entry.
Select the photo option to view the photo, and swipe down as before. Now team 87 is shown, instead of team 69.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

Hi Branden,

Good observations!

I'm glad to know that you discovered the trick of scrolling through photos. (It is documented on the Guided Tour page on the web site.)

The weirdness you noticed in how teams are filtered is because the team detail view doesn't care how you got there (through the big team list or through an event's team list), so it didn't have an event to pass to the photo viewer for filtering. I wondered if anyone would find that when I noticed it. I'm glad to hear you did find it. I've now bubbled that info through, so it will be fixed in the next release, probably after the week 1 regionals.

I'll look at the code for the other two bugs and see if I can figure out what happened.

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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

Although the match scores are correct, the score details shown in FRC Tracker for the week 1 events are obviously wrong. We are working with FIRST to resolve the issue.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

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Although the match scores are correct, the score details shown in FRC Tracker for the week 1 events are obviously wrong. We are working with FIRST to resolve the issue.
Looks like the twiter feed is wrong...

No way this result is possible:

Code Type Match Red F Blue F Red 1 Red 2 Red 3 Blue 1 Blue 2 Blue 3 Red B Blue B Red P Blue P Red G Blue G RGP BGP

#FRCDC Q 1 3 0 48 2377 701 2537 3340 3246 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0

According to this the final score was R3:B0 but there were only two goals scored by Blue.... no penalties or bonuses.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

You are correct, all of the tweets are messed up. I reported this problem to FIRST yesterday and I'm waiting for a resolution. Until then, I'm holding off on releasing an update to FRC Tracker.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

Here's the scoop on the twitter feed error from the folks at FIRST:

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The string format for the feed on week one was the following:
#FRC{0} TY {1} MC {2} RF {9} BF {10} RE {3} {4} {5} BL {6} {7} {8} RB {11} BB {12} RP {13} BP {13} RG {14} BG {15} RGP {16} BGP {17}

Everything was fine up to RP {13}. Starting at BP {13} everything was shifted off by 1 (i.e. BP {13} should have been BP {14})

So the feed should have been the following:
#FRC{0} TY {1} MC {2} RF {9} BF {10} RE {3} {4} {5} BL {6} {7} {8} RB {11} BB {12} RP {13} BP {14} RG {15} BG {16} RGP {17} BGP {18}
So, one value was duplicated, four near the end were shifted to the right, and the last field (Blue Alliance Goal Penalty) was lost. The good news is that you can calculate the BGP from the other values by using the equation:

BF = BG + BB - BP - BGP

If you shift the values and use the above equation to solve for BGP, consistent score details can be recovered for all but 43 of the 1,210 matches tweeted during week one. There were a number of matches that didn't get tweeted and some matches which got changed after the tweet went out (so you have to check against the official first match results pages).

In case you're wondering about the details, here's my understanding of the various fields:

RF = "final" score for red (unless it gets changed later by appeals to the head referee, etc)
RG = red goals
RB = red bonus for elevated/suspended robots
RGP = DOGMA (pdf) penalty accessed by the field
RP = penalties accessed by the referees

Likewise for blue.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

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Here's the scoop on the twitter feed error from the folks at FIRST:



So, one value was duplicated, four near the end were shifted to the right, and the last field (Blue Alliance Goal Penalty) was lost. The good news is that you can calculate the BGP from the other values by using the equation:

BF = BG + BB - BP - BGP

If you shift the values and use the above equation to solve for BGP, consistent score details can be recovered for all but 43 of the 1,210 matches tweeted during week one. There were a number of matches that didn't get tweeted and some matches which got changed after the tweet went out (so you have to check against the official first match results pages).

In case you're wondering about the details, here's my understanding of the various fields:

RF = "final" score for red (unless it gets changed later by appeals to the head referee, etc)
RG = red goals
RB = red bonus for elevated/suspended robots
RGP = DOGMA (pdf) penalty accessed by the field
RP = penalties accessed by the referees

Likewise for blue.
thanks for this tom... it fixed the issue I was having... A couple questions though... Have you thought about a way to calculate the BGP value if the alliance had more penalties than goals(it would normally result in a negative BGP value according to your equation)... also, has FIRST mentioned if they will be fixing this issue for this weekend's regionals?

thanks a ton!
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I'd just like to add that I'm using your app on my iPhone also
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thanks for this tom... it fixed the issue I was having... A couple questions though... Have you thought about a way to calculate the BGP value if the alliance had more penalties than goals(it would normally result in a negative BGP value according to your equation)... also, has FIRST mentioned if they will be fixing this issue for this weekend's regionals?

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I'd just like to add that I'm using your app on my iPhone also
Yeah, that equation doesn't tell the whole story since the score isn't allowed to go negative. In that case, you could just assume the BGP was zero, as it wouldn't change the seeding calculations. As it happens though, I don't think that occurred with any of the 43 tweets I couldn't fix, all of which had positive scores. There were some tweets that showed negative goals or a negative penalty, which the FIRST folks suggested was likely a field hardware error that was fixed manually by the refs and scorekeeper.

I believe FIRST will fix the tweets for week two, but the update to FRC Tracker that hit the store a few hours ago will automatically detect tweets that look like they're in the broken format and fix them.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

Team Update 16 changed a couple of rules in a significant way. Teams who don't field a robot because they haven't passed inspection don't get any seeding points, and the winning alliance now gets a 5-point bonus on their match seeding points.

FTC Tracker's guess at ranking is wrong whenever a score changes after the tweet and whenever a team doesn't show up or is disqualified. The first of the new rules makes this problem more common.

The second rule change requires an update to FTC Tracker, which has been submitted to Apple. Apple has been pretty quick approving updates lately, so hopefully it will be available sometime Thursday.
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2010 v 1.3.6 is now available on the app store.

This release fixes a couple of bugs with scores that had more penalties than points, a bug caused by not handling the case of a team initially registered for an event, but not scheduled in the qualifying matches, and an issue with showing official ranking data. It also updates all week 1 and week 2 data with fixes for a number of mangled match scores.
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Re: iPhone App Released - FRC Tracker

The rankings for Detroit District are not accurate due to the point total not matching up with FIRST for some reason.

Just thought I would mention it

And I do have the latest update.
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