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Unread 10-02-2010, 18:36
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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I agree that we all have issues to deal with, and one of them is to build a trident and practice the ball exchange. Granted the Human Player is less of a factor this year, BUT don't let he/she lose the game for you if you didn't practice the move.
I'll be sure to do it myself.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

We have built the trident based on the specs. Yes we have found the ball to be a snug fit. Yes we have found some people that say it is heavy, but it is the same as competition.

My recommendation is to place the ball into the trident, do not try to catch a thrown ball. The human player picking the ball up from the goal should WALK THE BALL TO THE TRIDENT PLAYER. DO NOT THROW!!

Human players need to be calm and cool. Don't place the wackiest, craziest students on this task. The human players need to work well under pressure and not drop the ball (literally).
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

Remember, All people behind the driver's station are allowed to handle the balls once they are out of the Goal and before they are re-introduced to the field via the trident. In the case of a build up of balls, this would be a good time for a Coach or other Free Drive team member to step in and make a relay chain of sorts to get the balls from the Goal to the player with the trident as quickly and as accurately as possible..

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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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Who has built a trident? The ones we built (following the drawings) are very snug over the ball. It almost seems like the best technique has been to put the ball on the ground and stab it with the trident. Has any one else found this to be the case?
Yes, it is a tight fit. The ball tends to pop out of it. Stabbing it is a good idea. We will give that a try.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

I feel the first several weeks of matches there will not be that much scoring, so the Human Players will be standing more then moving the ball. BUT...they must be ready to move quickly and precisely and not fumble the ball.

We have 11 seconds to move the ball from the goal to the ball delivery system, practice that move with your human players.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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Remember, All people behind the driver's station are allowed to handle the balls once they are out of the Goal and before they are re-introduced to the field via the trident. In the case of a build up of balls, this would be a good time for a Coach or other Free Drive team member to step in and make a relay chain of sorts to get the balls from the Goal to the player with the trident as quickly and as accurately as possible..

Just my 2 cents.
A pretty ingenious strategy to consider. Some sort of chain would really help. Have one or two people in between the person at the goal and the Human Play. It's great that FIRST allows the mentors to handle the ball this year, because some teams may not utilize their coaches as much as others, so this gives them a chance to assist the alliance.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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Ding, ding,ding. This will cause teams to lose many matches this year.

So the question will be: When the human player drops the ball and it rolls outside of the alliance station do you chase it (and get a penalty) or hope that enough balls come through the goal to keep the DOGMA from penalizing you too much?
i'd say go for both. take the penalty to go get the ball and put it back in to prevent more penalties adding up, rather than having the penalty add every 2 seconds. then go dominate the field.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

Does anyone know where I can find all the rules that involve the human player?
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Does anyone know where I can find all the rules that involve the human player?
Here
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Does anyone know where I can find all the rules that involve the human player?
More specifically, <G15> - <G17> in Section 7.3.4.3 and <G48> - <G52> in Section 7.3.6 in the Game Manual.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

While I agree that throwing isn't a good idea, our team has found it quite easy to actually catch the balls with the trident when thrown. After you get the hang of it it's not that bad, especially if you train your human player. Of course people are appalled and faint on the spot at the thought of this.

I like the floor-stab idea though, and I think the safest bet will probably be to roll the ball to the human player, who stops it with his foot by stepping on it, and then stabs it with the trident. The bucket-brigade idea sounds great too for desperate times.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

Our team has had a couple people practice. We all agree that one of the simplest and easiest ways is to have one of the corner human players pick up the ball, and then the middle HP sticks out the trident to the corner HP, and then that corner HP sticks it in the trident. It seems to work quite efficiently.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

Has anyone else considered handling two balls at once?

I noticed there wasn't a rule against it.
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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Has anyone else considered handling two balls at once?

I noticed there wasn't a rule against it.
You'd better re-read the rules on POSSESSION
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Re: Have You Trained Your Human Player Today?

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You'd better re-read the rules on POSSESSION
I think he is talking about handling two balls as a human player.

And if not, you better look up the rules!
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