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24 | 16.22% |
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19 | 12.84% |
| I disagree. (please explain) |
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90 | 60.81% |
| I don't think it will work. (please explain) |
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15 | 10.14% |
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#76
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
Think something that was mentioned in the original post hasn't been talked about. What about those kids who come to learn?
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
No, we need sustainable teams. If you give a team a check for $6,000 and say "Here, build a robot", that's a team that will probably be overwhelmed and drop out a year or two later due to inadequate funding and mentor/teacher support. That is entirely counterproductive to FIRST's goal.
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
I think there may be another aspect, and If I missed it having been said I apologize. First is a very intense and time consuming venture. I think we may need to consider balance of activities.I do not know what subject load other students have on other teams, but for my students it puts a strain on their studies. Once ship day comes, much time is used catching up on school work and preparing for AP tests. From my point of view as a sponsor & teacher my life pretty much goes on hold for 6 weeks. Like many others, I have other commitment and pass times in my life. If teams kept their robots for extended periods of time the commitments of the students and coaches and sponsors and mentors would be extended and I believe many teams would have trouble keeping active sponsors and mentors, who volunteer their time, for an 8, 10 or 12 week period. My $.02.
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
If in fact you are suggesting that teams with corporate sponsors don't earn what they have, then I am totally speechless. To me, that is completely disrespectful to teams that have a solid economic base for their team and strive to be able to fund themselves. Asking for money and getting it doesn't mean it isn't earned. Getting companies to sponsor you is not as simple as asking and getting. It's asking AND earning, but even if money did just land in people's laps, it's still disrespectful to tell them straight up that they didn't earn it.
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The benefit of FIRST doesn't come from the competition. My company sponsors many teams each year, but we'd rather fund more teams than fund multiple regional trips. |
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
Cory, I don't think anyone heard you. Hey out there, did you not see that there would be a huge drop in mentors if it went longer. In many cases that means that their financial aid will disappear as well.
Has anyone thought that if the season was longer that the better teams will improve 10 fold? Teams get out what they put in. It's a fact that cannot be denied. Deadlines are also a reality in the real world. I am sorry kids but if you think that the real world will wait by while you miss deadlines and say you want more time to complete, you are living in a dreamland. |
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We're probably at opposites of the spectrum here. I run a team that is completely sponsored by my company. I actually spend time recruiting students each year. I won't spend money on a second regional. I judge the success of my program, not by winning a regional, by how many students I progress to the next level of FIRST, college. |
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A few in Atlanta, but nearly 300+ teams do not get past week one events.
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
Okay, so their less capable robots don't interact with more capable robots. The problem here is?
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Re: Vote to change the format of FIRST.
Because the week 5 robots were in their shops getting fined tuned for competition for weeks while week one teams had one week to get ready to compete. How is that fair?
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The only thing that matters is that teams are inspiring their students |
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