Team update 16

[Jon Jack]

Wow, this is a huge update. This really changes the game.

[Marc P.]

Originally Posted by GGCO

Thank goodness! However I'm still concerned with FIRST's dislike of high scoring matches. After all, what's wrong with a good robot beating a bad robot?

The hope would be the team with the "good robot" would lend a helping hand to the team with the "bad robot" to make it not so bad.

"Good robots" vs "good robots" makes for a good show, no matter which side you're on.

[Fireworks 234]

I think this has been one of the best updates I have ever seem

Thank you GDC!!! This will help out all of the teams tremendously!!!

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

*spit take*

The GDC has changed the seeding formula in the middle of the competition season? I think this is unprecedented. Perhaps the fact that a team at Bayou failed to field a robot for all of Quals and ended up a pick alliance persuaded them. That likely also inspired the not inspected modification, which really only makes sense. At any rate, kudos to them for acting boldly to remedy what was a rather poor ranking system in desperate need of a fix.

I propose that all we hold all further criticisms of the ranking system to the end of the season in recognition of this olive branch from the GDC. Furthermore, I think we should all support this change of rules by the GDC instead of complaining of the unfairness to Week 1 teams. Better that they've acted quickly and decisively now than that they force us all to deal with the original system on a matter of principle.

I completely agree. I would have never expected the GDC to do this, as they would fully understand the repercussions of people calling Week 1 "unfair." But I'm very glad they have. This is probably one of my favorite team updates ever.

[JaneYoung]

Thank you, members of the GDC.

Jane

[Andrew Schreiber]

Dear GDC,

Thank You

[Tetraman]

Huzzah!

I'd like to propose that we make Preseason events official FIRST events, for the sole purpose for FIRST, teams, the GDC to evaluate the game and it's rules so that Week 1 Regional Competitions will no longer carry the stigma.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

*spit take*

The GDC has changed the seeding formula in the middle of the competition season? I think this is unprecedented. Perhaps the fact that a team at Bayou failed to field a robot for all of Quals and ended up a pick alliance persuaded them. That likely also inspired the not inspected modification, which really only makes sense. At any rate, kudos to them for acting boldly to remedy what was a rather poor ranking system in desperate need of a fix.

I propose that all we hold all further criticisms of the ranking system to the end of the season in recognition of this olive branch from the GDC. Furthermore, I think we should all support this change of rules by the GDC instead of complaining of the unfairness to Week 1 teams. Better that they've acted quickly and decisively now than that they force us all to deal with the original system on a matter of principle.

I had taken a vow to not look at the rankings at any of the events I was attending out of pure disgust at theold seeding system but now I cannot wait to se how the changes affect the Florida regional come Friday,

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by Madison

Remind me again why anyone, my team included, is stupid enough to keep going to week 1 events?

Madison,

Definitely a good question, given the massive problems with Week 1 events this year and previous years. It seems like there's little incentive to attend them unless you have no other option and it's very unfair to the teams forced to attend these events. Definitely something for discussion in the off-season. Off the top of my head, some possible solutions are:

1. Reduced entry fee for week 1 events. Takes the sting out of potential problems.
2. Drastically reduced number of week 1 events (one?) so FIRST can throw all available talent at them to help them run smoothly.
3. Full-on official scrimmages on official fields in an official tournament fashion. Assuming you can find the teams to make it happen.

Or some combination of these three. But at this point it's looking more and more like something needs to be done to address the quality of week 1 events, or you're going to see an exodus of savvy teams from these events.

[Rich Kressly]

namaste ... and thanks for listening ...
really looking forward to playing the game this way in a few weeks

[IndySam]

Two thumbs up for the GDC.

[,4lex S.]

Now I feel like I can have spectators show up and actually understand what is going on.

Thanks GDC, thats a really logical, upfront decision.

[Nawaid Ladak]

I personally am not a fan of the changes.... but i guess we have to live with it.

This is going to be a VERY intresting weekend in FIRST.

btw: has the GDC ever changed the scoring for a game once the competition has started? or is this a first?

[IndySam]

The <G46> change is as exciting as the section 9 change.

Should lead to much fewer penalties therefor higher scores and even higher coopertition bonus.

Even more reason to play to win!

[robodude03]

I have to mirror everyone else's statements and thank the GDC for this update. Playing the system will not be attractive anymore and can now focus on playing to win for those extra 5 points. This definitely changes the way the game will be played.