High score of the season

[JABot67]

Okay, the Michigan State Championship is going to be ridiculous. So many good teams, so many strategies!

It would be a good idea for Michigan teams to write autonomous modes that drive or strafe in front of the tower in auton before 469 can get to it. (Does 469 grab onto the tower?)

[BJC]

Originally Posted by JABot67

It would be a good idea for Michigan teams to write autonomous modes that drive or strafe in front of the tower in auton before 469 can get to it. (Does 469 grab onto the tower?)

Ya the thing is that 469 is not grabbing onto the tower THEY ARE UNDER IT!

This mean you cannot really push them anywhere once they get there (they get there in auto) they will be recycling any balls their team scores at the very least back into their home zone if not back into the goal for the rest of the match.

However since I believe that you can start asnywhere as long as you are touching your bump you may be able to start right in their way!!!

[Cory]

Originally Posted by JABot67

Okay, the Michigan State Championship is going to be ridiculous. So many good teams, so many strategies!

It would be a good idea for Michigan teams to write autonomous modes that drive or strafe in front of the tower in auton before 469 can get to it. (Does 469 grab onto the tower?)

Didn't work. Some team tried it in the semis and 469 pushed them right out of the way.

[JABot67]

If a robot was strong enough, could it go through the tunnel and push 469 out of the way?

[Josh Murphy]

Originally Posted by JABot67

If a robot was strong enough, could it go through the tunnel and push 469 out of the way?

I doubt it... I think if a team wedged itself in the tower and not just in front of it in auto they could probably stop them.

[Edoc'sil]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but any tank tread drive should be able to push them around, assuming that is that 469 doesn't have treads.

[Chris is me]

This strategy has countermeasures, but seems like something extremely tricky. I don't want to call choke-hold just yet though. I want to see a team park wide in front of the tunnel, perfectly centered, for example. Alternately, defense of the return or initial ball hoarding.

[BHS_STopping]

Originally Posted by JABot67

If a robot was strong enough, could it go through the tunnel and push 469 out of the way?

Perhaps, if a robot weighed 120 lbs and had some traction behind it. 469 could easily remedy this though, adding weight and maybe a braking mechanism to keep their wheels from spinning.

Oh dear, does this mean they can actually become *better*?

[johnr]

Someone will be able to stop them. Get to tower first and have traction wheels. They do have to cross field and other side starts right next to tower. There will be alot of code being written because of them. The 469 code.

[Lil' Lavery]

Do note that 469 is still pretty good when acting like a "normal" robot, as well. They typically are clearing balls out of the neutral zone in autonomous before they go into the tunnel (and sometimes scoring them) and in QF1-2 they left the tunnel due to a ball jam and scored a ball from the neutral zone during tele-op.

If the other alliance wants to commit a robot to wedging itself into the tunnel in order to stop 469, they'll then have to try and win a match 2v3. I don't like those odds very much, either.

[hipsterjr]

Is this not the "God bot" strategy everyone said would never work . Props to 469 for being brave enough to try it and for being awesome enough to perfect it.

[ZeroGAdam]

Does anyone have any video of this amazing match?

[fuzzy1718]

the reason no one can move them is that they have a springboard that goes under the tunnel and actually lifts up on the tower. They are effectively wedged in their position. This actually causes a problem; In one of the semis or finals (I dont remeber) they lifted the tower so much that the balls wouldnt roll down the return rails... so chickens decided to high speed ram it and bend it all out of wack in order to get them to come down... but no penalties were called so they were all good.

[BHS_STopping]

I threw together a quick drawing of what 469's robot essentially does. It's my best interpretation of things after watching a few Cass Tech matches.

http://img705.imageshack.us/i/469i.png/

[TKM.368]

You can catch some of 469 here, but none of it as impressive as their semifinal and final matches.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/5391497

Match 28 00:07:45
Match 34 01:04:56 (they can be defended against!)
Match 39 01:58:54

Much of what they did in the elims was off camera in these matches.