ZOOM OUT!

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

ZOOM OUT!



Anyone agree?

a wholehearted YES!!!!

[Alan Anderson]

The video is primarily for the big screen at the competition itself. The spectators can already see the whole field by not looking at the screen. The view the webcast viewers want is completely useless for the people at the event.

The only reasonable way to resolve this conflict of preferences is to not use the normal AV feed and instead have a totally separate camera view for the webcast.

[sparrowkc]

I think the live feed should should be a simple birds eye view of the rack in the center of the field.

Seriously though, I think the best solution would be for a team to set up a stationary camera in the stands, broadcast a low-res live feed, and later publish a full-res archive. I'm sure that this already happens at some tournaments, maybe we just need a group like TBA to organize it and pull things together.

[jgannon]

I can't imagine why you keep reviving this thread when the answer has been the same every time.

Originally Posted by jgannon

If you want to see all of the action at the same time, you should be sitting in the stands. The video crew is being paid to produce video catered to people who can *already* see all the action at the same time. It shouldn't be surprising that the webcast doesn't give the full picture of what's going on, but when I can't be at an event in person, I think it's great that I'm still able to get some idea of what's going on.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

ZOOM OUT!

I spent an agonizing minute and a half wondering if our robot was even driving at all in one match where there was a chance of field issues, since I was behind the curtain watching the screen.

I completely agree. This game needs to be digested with a full field shot.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by sparrowkc

Seriously though, I think the best solution would be for a team to set up a stationary camera in the stands, broadcast a low-res live feed, and later publish a full-res archive. I'm sure that this already happens at some tournaments, maybe we just need a group like TBA to organize it and pull things together.

Webcast for Northstar will almost certainly be the standard house stream, but I'll see what I can do about getting my camera in a decent spot and getting someone to tend it for archiving. We will also be archiving the house feed (hopefully at full 640x480 with a fairly high bitrate) so if I don't end up getting my camera set up or if it doesn't turn out well for whatever reason there will be a backup option.

10k Lakes will be house feed for both webcast and archiving.

The bottom line is that the house feed is always going to zoom in on things we find bizarre unless you get camera operators that know and understand the game (which is never going to happen).

[Wayne Doenges]

Personnaly, I would like to see a camera above the field looking down on the field showing the whole field all during the match.

[Tanner]

I know some people on here say that the camera is for people already at the event, which is true, but it is very hard to see sometimes (especially in the finals at Peachtree) what is going on when everyone in the stands is practically standing and there isn't anything really for me to stand on (which could potentially block the view of people behind me as well). In this case I am forced to look between people just to peek at the screen which often shows just one robot and then the crowd yells/cheers and I'm not sure what they're talking about for another 5-10 seconds until the camera guy switches over. It can be difficult at times to see what is going on.

Though I did see one thing this weekend watching the Florida Regional I believe it was where they had the overhead camera like every regional does, but they also had a camera behind the drivers that was able to view all the field. It was interesting to see the different perspectives, which I can't say was great all the time, but it was nice to see something different.

-Tanner

[Tytus Gerrish]

its not like it actually matters this year unless you are archiving the webcasts yourself. or trying to watch from home. OH WAIT what am i saying? Comeon FIRST, its the same Pet Peve that i've always had with the footage. I admit that they have improved by cutting in more broad areal shots but the timeing is still horrible.