Best of the Best

[O'Sancheski]

i would have to say 217, 148, 230 (but like chris said, they can be pushed around to easily. I pushed them with ease in WPI) and probably lastly 78. 469 doesn't come into my book

[ttldomination]

The IFI squad never fails to put out good machines, and this year, it seems like they're sweeping their competitions. (217, 148, 1114, 254, 2056)

469 + good kicker is definitely a really strong alliance, and the combination is beyond a doubt one of the strongest there are.

1771 has a powerful kicker and really good drivers. I think with a strong roller mech. they can dominate the field even more than they have been doing.

[Thuperscout]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

i would have to say 217, 148, 230 (but like chris said, they can be pushed around to easily. I pushed them with ease in WPI) and probably lastly 78. 469 doesn't come into my book

148 and 217 actually almost cannot be pushed around once the treads are put down. You need a powerfull bot to do so. If you've watched a regional you can tell the tremendous difference once treads are deployed.

I cannot speak on 230, since I have not seen their bot, but I most say 469 is a killer bot.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

148 and 217 actually almost cannot be pushed around once the treads are put down. You need a powerfull bot to do so. If you've watched a regional you can tell the tremendous difference once treads are deployed.

This is an understatement.
I mentioned to my driver after the second match during week 1, that he is like a running back and this is tackle football, NOT flag football.
The results have been great.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

148 and 217 actually almost cannot be pushed around once the treads are put down. You need a powerfull bot to do so. If you've watched a regional you can tell the tremendous difference once treads are deployed.

I cannot speak on 230, since I have not seen their bot, but I most say 469 is a killer bot.

I'm almost certain he was referring to 230 there, considering that was the only team at WPI and they have a standard mecanum drive.

[Thuperscout]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I'm almost certain he was referring to 230 there, considering that was the only team at WPI and they have a standard mecanum drive.

I assumed since the person said "they" that they meant all three, but if they didn't i apologize. I know nothing about team 230. Well, now I know they have standard mecanum drive =)

[KrazyCarl92]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

I assumed since the person said "they" that they meant all three, but if they didn't i apologize. I know nothing about team 230. Well, now I know they have standard mecanum drive =)

We aligned with 230 at the elims and won at WPI. They had an auto where they started in the defensive zone and cleared all 3 balls to the offensive zone, often times scoring 1 or 2 of them and even all 3 a couple of times. Then they would go into the mid field via the bumps and clear balls into the offensive zone from there. It worked great with a good scoring bot in the offensive zone and we put up 8 or 9 points a few times. They also hung during the quals, but we were up by enough points that they decided to avoid hanging and the risks associated in the elims. However, they did have a very durable method of hanging and I really can't see them breaking like some of the other bots did when trying to hang. Extremely strong auto, good end game and a good teleop. And they did all of this w/o a possession method.

[Thuperscout]

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92

We aligned with 230 at the elims and won at WPI. They had an auto where they started in the defensive zone and cleared all 3 balls to the offensive zone, often times scoring 1 or 2 of them and even all 3 a couple of times. Then they would go into the mid field via the bumps and clear balls into the offensive zone from there. It worked great with a good scoring bot in the offensive zone and we put up 8 or 9 points a few times. They also hung during the quals, but we were up by enough points that they decided to avoid hanging and the risks associated in the elims. However, they did have a very durable method of hanging and I really can't see them breaking like some of the other bots did when trying to hang. Extremely strong auto, good end game and a good teleop. And they did all of this w/o a possession method.

Did they stay in the middle zone the whole time and allow the homezone robot to score?
And was 8-9 points about the average in elims?
Can they sweep balls into the goal efficiently?
(Sorry, just trying to gather some information).
I hear they are a very good bot, but have never seen them myself. Anyone have pictures?

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

Did they stay in the middle zone the whole time and allow the homezone robot to score?

They basically climbed over right away in teleop (probably will do it in auto for their next event imo) and then kicked the other 3 balls over. From there, they'd either play midfield or run a 2 on 1 offense. They weren't the best at either of these since they lacked possession, but their whole game is played around getting early ball advantage anyway. Basically if you lock up the opponent's zone so there are no balls there, you get 3 on 2 in the zones with balls and effectively control the game.

Part of their domination was due to the fact that no other alliance could do this at WPI. The 5th alliance (2791 195 1124) could grab 1 ball in auto and kick 2 into the midfield if everything lined up right, making the game a lot more contested, but they got knocked out by an alliance that was worse equipped to handle 230.

And was 8-9 points about the average in elims?

If you exclude Final 2, where 20 just stopped moving for some reason, yes.

Can they sweep balls into the goal efficiently?

Their kicker automatically fired which made it tricky, but they scored very effectively in every zone.

I hear they are a very good bot, but have never seen them myself. Anyone have pictures?

[stevek]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Their kicker automatically fired which made it tricky, but they scored very effectively in every zone.

Just an FYI, we have a kicker that can fire Manually or Automatically. The automode is good because the timing of the sensor and when the ball need to be kicked is right on. But the Opperator and release the auto button and fire manually if we want to time the firing based on a partner or opponents position. SO... we can line up and score either way. We also use a camera and provide visual feedback to the computer as extra assurance we are in line with the target.

[KrazyCarl92]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

Did they stay in the middle zone the whole time and allow the homezone robot to score?
And was 8-9 points about the average in elims?
Can they sweep balls into the goal efficiently?
(Sorry, just trying to gather some information).
I hear they are a very good bot, but have never seen them myself. Anyone have pictures?

When they were teamed up with us, they stayed in the middle the entire time b/c we were able to score past anyone else there and when we scored, there was a steady amount of balls in the midfield from the ball return to keep them busy. When they were with other teams who struggled to score, they would clear defensive zone, move up, clear mid field, move up, score balls on offense, then either go back to the midfield to try to score or start to get ready for the hang, whichever time and score necessitated.

To answer the question about our bot breaking down, the power cable to our camera came loose when we got bumped. We're fixing it though, making it hard-wired since we realized it was pretty loose. Good thing we caught it before it happened in Atlanta.

[Thuperscout]

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92

When they were teamed up with us, they stayed in the middle the entire time b/c we were able to score past anyone else there and when we scored, there was a steady amount of balls in the midfield from the ball return to keep them busy. When they were with other teams who struggled to score, they would clear defensive zone, move up, clear mid field, move up, score balls on offense, then either go back to the midfield to try to score or start to get ready for the hang, whichever time and score necessitated.

To answer the question about our bot breaking down, the power cable to our camera came loose when we got bumped. We're fixing it though, making it hard-wired since we realized it was pretty loose. Good thing we caught it before it happened in Atlanta.

Alright, thanks a lot.

[O'Sancheski]

Originally Posted by Thuperscout

148 and 217 actually almost cannot be pushed around once the treads are put down. You need a powerfull bot to do so. If you've watched a regional you can tell the tremendous difference once treads are deployed.

I cannot speak on 230, since I have not seen their bot, but I most say 469 is a killer bot.

yes i forgot to mention the robowranglers... but you are going to need a high traction robot to be able to push you guys and 148 around... 469 can easily be pushed around because of their mecanums

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

... 469 can easily be pushed around because of their mecanums

You sure about that?

[O'Sancheski]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

You sure about that?

if you have a robot that can get under the tunnel then you can just push them out