Team 217 - Thunderchickens

[Tetraman]

Originally Posted by Mike Copioli

All of this debate about 469 and 217 has buried a team that I believe will be seen on Einstein in years to come, 2960. Remember that without a third robot like 2960, scoring effectively against an equally offensive alliance would be difficult if not impossible.

This is big. A lot of us see 217 and 469 and we stop right there thinking you've already won Einstein. And while that can have it's truth to it, an alliance is not two teams. If people think that an alliance of 217 and 469 could do everything with just them, they are kidding themselves. An alliance is three robots, not just two, and finding the key robot after 21 other robots have become unavailable is not any easy task.

Not everyone gives enough credit to the third robot in an alliance of two powerhouse teams, but it usually is the robot that makes or breaks an alliance.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Tetraman

This is big. A lot of us see 217 and 469 and we stop right there thinking you've already won Einstein. And while that can have it's truth to it, an alliance is not two teams. If people think that an alliance of 217 and 469 could do everything with just them, they are kidding themselves. An alliance is three robots, not just two, and finding the key robot after 21 other robots have become unavailable is not any easy task.

Not everyone gives enough credit to the third robot in an alliance of two powerhouse teams, but it usually is the robot that makes or breaks an alliance.

Indeed, you guys (174) were every bit as instrumental to the FLR win as the 217 and us. There is a reason you were very high up on our 'to pick after ThunderChickens" list!

[Mike Copioli]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

Indeed, you guys (174) were every bit as instrumental to the FLR win as the 217 and us. There is a reason you were very high up on our 'to pick after ThunderChickens" list!

Our list as well.

[JesseK]

I agree that 217's bot is well engineered, yet I haven't seen every other robot this year so I'll withhold my top picks until the end. Rumor has it that 330 and 25 are just as formidable as 217 but much less publicized.

[robself705]

Originally Posted by Tetraman

This is big. A lot of us see 217 and 469 and we stop right there thinking you've already won Einstein. And while that can have it's truth to it, an alliance is not two teams. If people think that an alliance of 217 and 469 could do everything with just them, they are kidding themselves. An alliance is three robots, not just two, and finding the key robot after 21 other robots have become unavailable is not any easy task.

Not everyone gives enough credit to the third robot in an alliance of two powerhouse teams, but it usually is the robot that makes or breaks an alliance.

Very well put.

[bobrenjc93]

469 and 217 won 20-3 in the final match with 217 and 469 scoring at least 15 of the goals. The third team was basically a spectator. So I have to disagree with your theory.

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by bobrenjc93

469 and 217 won 20-3 in the final match with 217 and 469 scoring at least 15 of the goals. The third team was basically a spectator. So I have to disagree with your theory.

There job wasn't to score all-out... Defense on the on blue robot is what enabled the alliance to put up those high scores. You over look there ablilty to do mutiply things, while good scouting teams see them as a duel threat of scoring and defense. The excuted thier strategy perfectly and thats why we saw those high scores. You do your job, you will be rewarded.

[PaW]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

There job wasn't to score all-out... Defense on the on blue robot is what enabled the alliance to put up those high scores. You over look there ablilty to do mutiply things, while good scouting teams see them as a duel threat of scoring and defense. The excuted thier strategy perfectly and thats why we saw those high scores. You do your job, you will be rewarded.

Indeed. Team 2960 did an excellent job playing defense on the opposing team's lone defensive-zone robot, preventing that robot from trying to block the 'automatic roll backs', or from trying to clear out the stray balls. Definitely not a spectator.

Three teams make the alliance successful.

[Chris Hibner]

Originally Posted by PaW

Indeed. Team 2960 did an excellent job playing defense on the opposing team's lone defensive-zone robot, preventing that robot from trying to block the 'automatic roll backs', or from trying to clear out the stray balls. Definitely not a spectator.

2960 has some very multi-talented team members. I LOVE the Wings of Fire logo (look in the top left of this page). It was designed by a member of 2960! We saw their logo last year and absolutely loved it, so when we needed a new logo for our newly combined team, we enlisted the help of 2960. We'll be forever thankful.