disaster in israel regional

[keehun]

Originally Posted by brianelite

I don't want to totally derail this thread so I will be concise.

If you really don't want to derail this thread, you better explain and have a good warrant and reason to every one of your claims.

Originally Posted by brianelite

FIRST should use a simple AVR microcontroller with a basic library for abstraction.

FIRST just moved away from a simple microcontroller for a reason.. I am awestruck by the lag-less target detection and advanced driving systems that have risen from the ability for real time complex mathematical computations that the cRio was able to deliver. That 8 bit controller using interrupts would've been no where close enough.

Originally Posted by brianelite

NO OS ON THE ROBOT. NO PRECOMPILED LIBRARY. NO MULTIPLE UPDATES IN A SINGLE WEEK. Keep it simple stupid.

That sounds nice. But then again, it's much easier said then done. If you want "simple stupid" maybe FRC isn't for you.

Originally Posted by brianelite

Despite all of FIRSTS efforts - almost no teams use vision tracking this year.

You are quite uninformed. I'll leave it at that.

Originally Posted by brianelite

There is no reason for teams needing a $1000 subsidized cRIO. C is better for students to learn than Labview.

Perhaps there's no reason... But that's not for us to decide. It's also not for us to decide whether or not C or LabView is more useful, as they aren't mutually exclusive skills or toolsets.


I think I can imagine the scope of the horrible event and letdown the Israel Regional may have been. But I think we don't need to keep complaining or whining or telling FIRST that they messed up. Like in a music concert, the performers are the FIRST to know if there was a mistake, even a minute one that goes unheard to the audience. I think that there's no reason for people to be bashing the Israel Regional, at this point. Just be patient with FIRST and FRC and eventually they will have it solved. I hope that the competition is more than just getting in to matches and winning. I had always thought and believed that FIRST was for something greater, the experience, the work ethic, the team work, the spirit, the connections and relationships, and the generosity (Gracious Professionalism) at the competitions. Let's show Dean, Woodie, and rest of FIRST that we can handle minor hiccups like those that went down in Israel.

Keehun
Team 2502