2010 NASA/VCU regional!!!

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Originally Posted by JesseK

To be fair, why should we not play by the rules, particularly in the 2nd scenario you're describing? In other words, how is it in FIRST's best interest to not play by the rules they set?

The first scenario sounds like it's unprecedented (how can you even return a ball without putting it through the cyllinder?) and thus the referee would rather error on the side of literal rather than subjective. If anything, the head ref may receive clarification tonight and simply change the score tomorrow. I would much rather a referee error on the side of literal rather than interpretive, and at least in these two cases the rules are very clear.

For the second scenario, if the bot flipped then the other bot should have left the zone.

Edit -- After some research, it would appear that the alliance in scenario 1 should be issued a <G16> of 2 penalties + Yellow Card. So perhaps if the team challenges the ruling with what the rules state, their score can be changed even without GDC intervention.

Hey guys
I was on field reset for the first two days o i will try to clarify some things. The head Ref is Lisa, and as long as iv been on reset ( 5 years now) she is very strict and i think always will be. In my opinion i think that the rules should have a little lee way in that they should be called if they were intentional. now to explain what happened with the ball return issue because it happened directly infront of me. the main issue that has been happening the whole event is that people are sticking the balls to far in to the trident thus making it hard for them to come out when they ball is put on the ball return. what happened is exactly that. $@#$@#$@# he was trying to get the ball out of the trident it got stuck in the ball return. as he was trying to get it free by hitting it up with the trident the ball litteraly launched over the sensor. I did explain this to the one of the refs and he did talk to Lisa but the decision was left to them and i wasnt there for the discussion.


also to explain the two main communication issues that caused basically all of the problems. On Thursday the main issue was with the WPA keys. what happened is at the beginning of the day when the keys were all added to the routers the program said that they took when they didnt. We quickly found the solution which was just easy, re-implant the WPA key which is what we were doing when you saw us on the field with a laptop. The problem on Friday was that some of the robots had new routers and what was happening was if the new routers got turned on after the old routers it kicked them off of the network. The problem was fixed by shutting off all bots, restarting the router and clearing all the information off of the system, and then turning the robots with new routers on first and then the other robots. it just took awhile because of the reboot. congratulations to alll teams on a GREAT REGINAL