pic: 343, up without a doubt

[Josh Drake]

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[O'Sancheski]

i really like the flames... how did you manage to do them... is it paint or is it like a piece of aluminum flat plate

[Andrew Remmers]

This robot was awesome i really like your hanger!!! it was fun being alliance partners to!

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

i really like the flames... how did you manage to do them... is it paint or is it like a piece of aluminum flat plate

it is paint. one of our engineers did it, but im not totally sure how...

and andrew, for palmetto, we are actually making the hanger faster. we are using two fisher price instead of one cim. estimated to be twice as fast

[Jamie Kalb]

Can you explain how the hanger works? I love the looks of it.

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb

Can you explain how the hanger works? I love the looks of it.

I would love to! and im going to descibe how we are driving it now instead of in this picture.

first, the entire mechanism folds down into the robot. it is held by a latch that runs off the motor's shaft. so, when the motor starts, the latch is released, which then releases the gas shocks.

second, run into the pole. there are two spring loaded clips that clamp itself to the pole.

third, a pneumatic is used to set the weight of the robot to begin to climb.

fourth, two fisher price motors lift the robot up. and the wheel is a trailer boat roller.

the only thing different are the motors, everything else will remain the same

[hipsterjr]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

i really like the flames... how did you manage to do them...

I wounder where they got the flames from? LOL See you guys Thursday.

Your name doesn't even have "burning" in it.

[BJC]

Really, Really cool.

Just out of curiosity, how fast does it lift above the plane of the platform from when you clamp on?

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by hipsterjr

I wounder where they got the flames from? LOL See you guys Thursday.

Your name doesn't even have "burning" in it.

well.....

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by BJC

Really, Really cool.

Just out of curiosity, how fast does it lift above the plane of the platform from when you clamp on?

about ten seconds. we are hoping with the new motors that it will be a little less

[BJC]

[quote=cziggy343;942122]about ten seconds. we are hoping with the new motors that it will be a little less[/QUOTE

Thats pretty quick. The best part about systems like this is the lack of time it takes to line up. That in itself is often more of a factor for many teams then actully lifting up, so being able to lift from 2 of the 3 zones is a definate plus.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

and andrew, for palmetto, we are actually making the hanger faster. we are using two fisher price instead of one cim. estimated to be twice as fast

Unless you're also changing the gearing (aside of just balancing out the free speeds of the FP and the CIM), how are 2 FP motors going to be twice as fast as a single CIM? CIM motors are roughly 250W motors (@10.5V), while FPs are 140W (@10.5V). Even with 2 FPs, you're only slightly passing the power a single CIM provides, and certainly not doubling it. Even if you're looking at the power @40A, you're still not doubling the power of the CIM motors.

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Unless you're also changing the gearing (aside of just balancing out the free speeds of the FP and the CIM), how are 2 FP motors going to be twice as fast as a single CIM? CIM motors are roughly 250W motors (@10.5V), while FPs are 140W (@10.5V). Even with 2 FPs, you're only slightly passing the power a single CIM provides, and certainly not doubling it. Even if you're looking at the power @40A, you're still not doubling the power of the CIM motors.

Amen sean. I was wondering the same thing. the easy calculation is the fp = 1/2 of a cim. Definitely not 1 cim =1fp.

Still though tthere lifter is possibly my favorite. I know its not the fastest but its so simple in my eyes. Good luck 343 you guys are awesome.

[Jamie Kalb]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

I would love to! and im going to descibe how we are driving it now instead of in this picture.

first, the entire mechanism folds down into the robot. it is held by a latch that runs off the motor's shaft. so, when the motor starts, the latch is released, which then releases the gas shocks.

second, run into the pole. there are two spring loaded clips that clamp itself to the pole.

third, a pneumatic is used to set the weight of the robot to begin to climb.

fourth, two fisher price motors lift the robot up. and the wheel is a trailer boat roller.

the only thing different are the motors, everything else will remain the same

So the same motor/motor group that provides the lifting force releases the latch (i.e. deploys the lifter)? That's clever!

And the spring-loaded latching onto the pole step is very smart. Saves a whole lot of time lining up!

I'm a little confused on Step Three, though. How do you "set the weight of the robot" with a pneumatic?

[Josh Drake]

The current lifter used in Florida is a GEM500 with 3 stages and a CIM. The new set up will be a double doozy, and two stages of the GEM500. Things will work on paper, but the true test will be tomorrow. Not quite double, but faster.

The setting of the weight thing with the pneumatics....
The spring loaded clips drive in and attach to the pole. Then the entire lifter mechanism pivots up via a cylender to force the rubber roller into the pole. Then turn on the motors and sit back.

The silver flames are actually a decal like 342 uses. We were thinking paint at one point.

This was one of Ziggy's senior projects, and it has turned out to be a success.