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Unread 28-03-2010, 16:37
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The referees and the scoring table figured that since we were running ahead of schedule, we would go ahead and allow it since it would be easier for them to get the timeout, versus us not letting them....neither team moving, forcing a tie, and then we would have had to wait longer.

I am not really sure what you mean by that paragraph. If they had not given us the time out then, 87 would have not moved, and we would have suffered a humiliating defeat. However, with us getting it, we ended up with a loss of 7-8, which I consider quite good against the champs of two regionals.
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I am not really sure what you mean by that paragraph. If they had not given us the time out then, 87 would have not moved, and we would have suffered a humiliating defeat. However, with us getting it, we ended up with a loss of 7-8, which I consider quite good against the champs of two regionals.
If the refs disallowed the cascading timeout the #1 alliance may have suggested that both alliances immediately E-stop their robots. A very boring two minutes and fifteen seconds would then ensue with the match ending in a 0-0 tie. Your alliance would have then had the full reset time, plus potentially the #1 alliances timeout. This scenario is a good indicator that the rule is not a good one as enforcing it will result in greater delays if the alliance decides that they truly want to give the opposing alliance as much time as possible.

I also want to point out that me pointing out the rules was not intended as any disrespect towards the #1 alliance or towards the referees/event officials. I have great respect and admiration for both the gesture made by the #1 alliance and the referees for allowing it, I feel that this rule is unnecessary and should not be in the rulebook.
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I didn't take any of your message as disrespect for the #1 alliance: Just knowing the rules better than me and Radical Pi (Knowing him, thats a very hard thing to do)
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I didn't take any of your message as disrespect for the #1 alliance: Just knowing the rules better than me and Radical Pi (Knowing him, thats a very hard thing to do)
Sorry, that last part of my previous post didn't really have anything to do with my response to your post. It was just something I wanted to make sure was clear after thinking a little more about the thread and what I had posted in it.
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Re: Thank you teams 365 486 and 341

I was the driver/programmer of team 87's bot at philly, and I too would like to personally thank alliance #1. I'm sure moe just wanted to have a fair fight against us after Qual. #66

In all seriousness though, you guys were awesome out there in letting us finish up the robot. And it made for an awesome 8-8 match before penalties. That was truly the most exciting match I have ever seen, and I'm sure it was the same for many of those in the stands as well.

I also would like to thank you all for the compliments on our team, as well.

And I would also like to thank 639 and 1640 for your support during these issues. We made it far and we sure put on one hell of a show!
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Re: Thank you teams 365 486 and 341

Great show 639-87-1640. I am sure you would have given us your time out should we have needed it (regardless of the rules).

You were a terrific alliance and, with each of your bots working well, we knew we were in for a close match.

Congrats on your showing at Philly!
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I was the driver/programmer of team 87's bot at philly, and I too would like to personally thank alliance #1. I'm sure moe just wanted to have a fair fight against us after Qual. #66 .........
We watched Q66 very carefully and knew you were very dangerous. 87 was the bot that I feared the most. You guys could really control a match. Nice work.
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