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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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For the individual team, 67 has an autonomous mode where they shoot and score 4 balls. They start in the far zone, kick three, then traverse the bump and kick one in the middle zone.

It's a crazy good autonomous.
How repeatable is this? Our issue is that while the balls usually land in about the same spot, they end up with variable amounts of spin and bounce which sometimes make them ricochet off the chains or hit the metal bar on the top of the goal. This problem seems to be pretty ubiquitous among teams. If 67 is consistently scoring 3-4, I'd love to see how they coped with this issue.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

My team, (1592) shoots 5 balls in autonomous consistently. The 3 in the far zone, and the 2 in the middle. Last week at Colorado, we made 4 in during one of the qualifications. Others, making usually 2-3 balls in.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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How repeatable is this? Our issue is that while the balls usually land in about the same spot, they end up with variable amounts of spin and bounce which sometimes make them ricochet off the chains or hit the metal bar on the top of the goal.
Well they always get the balls into the near zone, but on average 1-3 are scored at a time. Although will all of those balls in your near zone, then they can easily score them.

I think the issues you mentioned are affecting all teams out there, and can keep anyone from scoring a perfect auton mode from zone 3 every time.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

Check out the first match of the Finals in LA this last weekend. 9 points scored in autonomous

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2010ca_f1m1
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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Check out the first match of the Finals in LA this last weekend. 9 points scored in autonomous

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2010ca_f1m1
Saw that live... Wasn't paying attention that much after that
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

Best auton thus far:

2851 making what is believed to be the first "469 auton". We successfully wedged ourselves in the tunnel and our treaded wheels kept us there.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

Scoring 2 or more points in autonomous is probably one of the most advantageous. 2016, 1519, and 230 won events partly because of autonomous, so I'll go with them simply due to their higher than average repeatability.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

1772 definately had the best autonomus at palmetto, but from reading these posts it sounds like it was nothing compared to a lot of teams.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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Best auton thus far:

2851 making what is believed to be the first "469 auton". We successfully wedged ourselves in the tunnel and our treaded wheels kept us there.
Chas_G of Team developed an auton for defending against 469 at Troy. It worked wonderfully (even with their mechanums), and did something similar to what you described.

He also lent his code to many other teams at Troy to use

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Our autonomous mode is actually setup to kick 5 balls. We consistently kick 4 balls, but we usually misfire on the 5th ball.

I'd say we consistently score 1 out of 4. Our best so far is 3 out of 5.

Alot of times the shots are on track, but they bounce off the chains.

Too me it is more important to kick the balls than it is to score them. Although, its really exciting when they do score.
That would explain why I only thought you went for four. Still though, that's a really impressive autonomous mode.

I can agree with the chain issues; it seems that they are the reason a team doesn't score all of their balls in auto (us included!).

And it's definitely more important to get the balls into your zone. Sure, a few points are nice, but with the balls in your zone it allows for two things: 1. Your balls are out of your opponent's home zone 2. The balls are in your home zone, so you can easily score them.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

1261, 343, and 2815 made 4 in finals at Palmetto.

We(1261) would consistently make 1, and 2815 would consistently make one. The points went between 2-4 depending on how our shots/343's shots went.

But regardless, the autonomous buffer was still extremely comforting when entering teleop.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

We have ours set up for 2 different sets, our slow setting(3-ball) kicks only the far 3, our Fast setting(5-ball) kicks the far three and middle 2

our slow setting scores 1 everytime, 2 50% of the time and we have scored 3 in a couple matches

our fast setting kicks all 5 85% of the time and always scores 1-2, scores 3 about 30% of the time and we scored 4 balls in 1 match and the 5th ball was kicked into the front zone

(all these scores are from our robot alone, not counting our other alliances number scored)
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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How repeatable is this? Our issue is that while the balls usually land in about the same spot, they end up with variable amounts of spin and bounce which sometimes make them ricochet off the chains or hit the metal bar on the top of the goal. This problem seems to be pretty ubiquitous among teams. If 67 is consistently scoring 3-4, I'd love to see how they coped with this issue.
We are not completely consistent... at a competition... yet. The biggest problem is as you've described. The trick to getting around this is to bounce the balls on the ground somewhere before the goal because they go in far more consistently at lower speeds and/or rolling.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

1502, the MeTool brigade, was able to score 2-3 balls consistently from the far end. They ended up winning the St Louis Regional.
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1502, the MeTool brigade, was able to score 2-3 balls consistently from the far end. They ended up winning the St Louis Regional.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

I'm with Team 1922 and at both of our regionals most teams didn't even get 1 ball in consistently which ended up giving us a big advantage because we shoot 2 in the majority of matches unless another robot blocks the goal that is.

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