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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

1502, the MeTool brigade, was able to score 2-3 balls consistently from the far end. They ended up winning the St Louis Regional.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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1502, the MeTool brigade, was able to score 2-3 balls consistently from the far end. They ended up winning the St Louis Regional.
The MeTool Brigade is team 1208.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

I'm with Team 1922 and at both of our regionals most teams didn't even get 1 ball in consistently which ended up giving us a big advantage because we shoot 2 in the majority of matches unless another robot blocks the goal that is.

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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

1519 had the best auto at North Carolina, they scored 5 once, even had 1772 on their team and did well regardless in autonomous. Meaning that even 1772's great auto was helped by 1519's
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1519 had the best auto at North Carolina, they scored 5 once, even had 1772 on their team and did well regardless.
I wish we had 5! We set our record at 3 balls out of 5 in one of our qualification matches. It is amazing at how 1/4 inch difference in where items sit in relationship to our ball magnet and kicker can cause our kicker to mess up to the extreme. In the eliminations our active shepherding mechanisms shifted and balls could not sit properly on the vacuum so when we stopped to kick they would roll away.

Our autonomous can kick 5 balls consistently and scores on average 1-2 balls and gets the rest in the near zone to score and give us ball dominance depending on how well the opposing alliance did in getting balls out. Ball dominence is key in matches. At GSR and NCR in the finals when we did not clear balls out of the far zone we lost. At GSR our kicker jammed and kicking had to sit out until the next match and we won after getting all 3 balls in our near zone. At NCR we got 1-2 out in most elimination matches, but in the finals we usually had 2 or 3 that didn't make it out and cost us the match. If we had all 3 of those balls in the near zone for 1772 to score, it could have pulled off a second win, but the number 1 seed was too much.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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1519 had the best auto at North Carolina, they scored 5 once, even had 1772 on their team and did well regardless.
I agree. 1519 had one of the best autonomous that I have seen this year. They can either stay in their section and clear the balls, or they can start in far and clear 5 balls. Usually they have around 3-4 make it in (When I saw it).

They were an amazing team anyways! Gotta love them homeschoolers.
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Thanks for the honorable mention - that's definitely a flattering statement!

Well, I'd sure like to think that our team (1519) scored 5 points in auto once; however, I'm pretty sure we have never scored all five of our kicks! As has been said in this thread, it's almost impossible to make all of the kicks that reliable, as the bounces are almost impossible to make consistent.

That said, I'm fairly certain we successfully moved two balls from the far zone to the near zone, scored one from the far zone, and scored two more from the near zone in one of our auto modes! Essentially, making this our "perfect" auto, except that two of the balls in the far zone missed to the right of the goal.

I would definitely agree with those that think that auto is a very significant part of the match! It is a brief period when your alliance knows you have unrestricted access to 6 balls, which you can put in known locations! After auto, whoever has "ball domination" has a distinct advantage, although certainly not an insurmountable advantage.

Just figured I'd dispel the confusion about 1519's autonomous mode! Thanks again for the mention!
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

You know what would be cool to see?

1519 / 469 / someone who consistently scores in the front zone.

Knock back 6 in auto, get a cycle going before teleop starts, end of game at that point, World Champions.
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(1) Knock back 6 in auto, (2) get a cycle going before teleop starts, (3) end of game at that point, World Champions.
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Just because (1) and (2) happen, I think (3) is not a given. A high probability for sure....but not a given. Just my opinion.
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Just because (1) and (2) happen, I think (3) is not a given. A high probability for sure....but not a given. Just my opinion.
Have fun blocking all 6 balls while simultaneously stopping two front bots from scoring while scoring your own balls at a faster pace. 469 can only be beaten if the cycle doesn't have more than 3 balls in it at a time (basically, autonomous has to go wrong).
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

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469 can only be beaten if the cycle doesn't have more than 3 balls in it at a time (basically, autonomous has to go wrong).
I understand exactly what you are saying. I've reffed them at District and States. My point is:
Batteries die, bots flip over, human players drop balls, connections come loose, great bots do unexpected things, coaches make mistakes. Did you watch the bot bang them at the right time to cause balls to fall out of the rack into the midzone?

I'm just saying that your statement is more definite than I believe. Enough for me on this one.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

So far one of my favorite autos has been team 67, i don't know how 1519's auto works but am def. looking forward to seeing it in ATL.

we had issues with our auto in NJ, but fixed it for dallas. we consistently score 2/3 balls and at times all 3...

i think you soo far it has been if you can pull up your score in auto its pretty hard to beat, 2 or 3 balls scored + a hang. (this does not include the michigan teams, because they are in a different league and i dont think i saw less than double digit matches )

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So far one of my favorite autos has been team 67, i don't know how 1519's auto works but am def. looking forward to seeing it in ATL.

we had issues with our auto in NJ, but fixed it for dallas. we consistently score 2/3 balls and at times all 3...

i think you soo far it has been if you can pull up your score in auto its pretty hard to beat, 2 or 3 balls scored + a hang. (this does not include the michigan teams, because they are in a different league and i dont think i saw less than double digit matches )

see ya guys in ATL.
Here is ours before we added in two more balls. Just imagine it kicking these two a little faster and then driving over the bump to hit the next two.

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Here is ours before we added in two more balls. Just imagine it kicking these two a little faster and then driving over the bump to hit the next two.

http://www.mechanicalmayhem.org/teamvideos.asp

I really can't wait to see your robot in Atlanta!
thats nice looking.... good stuff guys.
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Re: Best 2010 Autonomous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOoFQS04RsI

Team 3025 hit two from the far end of the field in the quarter final match. Now, for the sake of full disclosure, we had not accomplished that before. We did often score one goal and kick the second ball away. We have been polishing our autonomous to kick all three balls from the far end of the field to the goal. We also have autonomous modes for other areas of the field as well. Will see how that plays in Atlanta.

If you watch the video, it was all for naught. We were playing some aggressive defense and slipped off, and unintentionally interfered with team 2751 while hanging.

After tying three times, the 1772, 1102, and 2751 alliance went on to play in the final. Great fun and my hat is off to the Brazilian team 1772.

Also, thanks to teams 281 and 337. We are proud to have been your alliance partner.

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