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*sigh* I know I'm going to sound stupid asking this, but: what does "GDC mean?....
I believe it means "Game Design Commision", but im not positive.
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*sigh* I know I'm going to sound stupid asking this, but: what does "GDC mean?....
Game Design Committee.

Better known as the group of evil geniuses that we all want to graciously professionally beat up sometime during build season because of X rule that we absolutely hate for whatever reason.
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LOL!

i think first goes a little too far with the safety thing. they say most of these rule are for safety but i think they just like to get on our nerves. for example: why limit the amount of motors we can use?
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i think first goes a little too far with the safety thing. they say most of these rule are for safety but i think they just like to get on our nerves. for example: why limit the amount of motors we can use?
Equal power. Think about it: I buy 20 CIMs and use all of them on one robot. That robot could easily tear itself apart (assuming that the battery didn't drain instantly or something of that nature), damaging everything around. Or, it could outpush and outrun every other robot out there and do a few other things while it was at it--with a single-speed drive and the right wheels.

By limiting the number and type of motors, the maximum power is roughly equalized for everyone, pneumatics being the "roughly" part. Imagine competing at sumo wrestling against a pro sumo wrestler, and that's what could happen if you put the quantity of motors to unlimited.
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and that's what could happen if you put the quantity of motors to unlimited.
i sortof get your point. but on the flip side everyone could go out and buy 20 cims and that might actually be pretty awesome to see 6 robots reach running around with 20 cims.

in any case maybe the motor example wasn't the best point....

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i sortof get your point. but on the flip side everyone could go out and buy 20 cims and that might actually be pretty awesome to see 6 robots reach running around with 20 cims.

in any case maybe the motor example wasn't the best point....
Yes and no. It would create a sort of arms race, and is not something that, I believe, FIRST wants to do.

Another reason for it is it's a design challange. Using less than optimal motors to do specific tasks means improvisation and innovation ... both are good things IMHO.
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I think that it will not have balls as game objects because they used balls the last 3 years.
I also think they won't model after another sport.

I hope they make a game that allows for very creative out of the box robots. Many this year are boxes.
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Yes and no. It would create a sort of arms race, and is not something that, I believe, FIRST wants to do.

Another reason for it is it's a design challange. Using less than optimal motors to do specific tasks means improvisation and innovation ... both are good things IMHO.
well said, point taken... but i guess that means they do try to drive us crazy >_<
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Re: anyone have any ideas about next years game?

I liked breakaway, because of all the strategy that was involved in it. I'd hope they continue to produce games with a lot of strategy. I'd imagine that the GDC would go with a combination game for FIRST's 20th year(combination of past games).
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I liked breakaway, because of all the strategy that was involved in it. I'd hope they continue to produce games with a lot of strategy. I'd imagine that the GDC would go with a combination game for FIRST's 20th year(combination of past games).
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I think that it will not have balls as game objects because they used balls the last 3 years.
I also think they won't model after another sport.

I hope they make a game that allows for very creative out of the box robots. Many this year are boxes.
Yes, seeing that small balls were used two times in a row makes next years game piece(s) unlikely to be small balls, yet they are easy to work with and they open the door for a lot of creativity and potential. I do not think they will be small balls next year, but I will not be surprised if they are once again.

On the topic of creativity in regards to the robot, I do wish that this game allowed for more different ideas. One of the main reason I enjoyed Lunacy was because there were so many robots with different ways of scoring; I said "Wow, that's clever/ingenious" countless times the first day of competition. This year, it all seems to be the same bot and similar kicker design. The only thing that is different that I still go crazy over is the way each team manages to lift itself. That still drops my jaw. I just think that next year should open the door a little more and allow for more creativity.

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The only thing that is different that I still go crazy over is the way each team manages to lift itself. That still drops my jaw. I just think that next year should open the door a little more and allow for more creativity
Agreed. This was my first year going to FRC and I saw a few lifters that blew my mind. They showed me what "out of the box thinking" really is.
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I think that it will not have balls as game objects because they used balls the last 3 years.
That's what I've been thinking for the past 2 years.

Although each year, I don't expect another ball game, I'm thoroughly surprised by what the GDC can do with a ball.
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