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**FIRST EMAIL**/Updated Championship Information

Greetings Championship (CMP) Teams:

We are looking forward to seeing all of you in Atlanta! In the weeks leading up to CMP, we will be emailing you each Wednesday. We apologize for the multiple emails, but with new teams being added each week we want to ensure that everyone receives this important information! While we will resend the same important information each week, please note that we will include updates as they become available so be sure to scan the email each week. Thank you!

Please visit the CMP Planning section of our website for important information http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nt.aspx?id=432 We update this page regularly so check back periodically for new posts!
Newly Posted: Pit Map; Posted last week: FIRST Finale Information, Site Information, and 2010 FRC CMP Essential Information Document. The "2010 FRC CMP Essential Information Document" is an "A-Z" of important event details. We have recently updated this document. Please look for "New!" followed by revision date for latest information.
IMPORTANT WEDNESDAY LOAD IN INFORMATION:
As you make plans to attend CMP, plan to have up to five (5) of your team members (at least one must be an adult mentor) ready to un-crate your robot, charge your batteries, encrypt your radio and get your robot inspected all on Wednesday (4/14) night. You can even work on your robot and start to set up your pit if you have time. Pits open at 6 PM and close at 9 PM on Wednesday.

Also qualification rounds start at 1 PM on Thursday, April 15th this year—your robot must have passed inspection by then! Plan ahead to make sure you have all the necessary team members on hand. The earlier start will allow us to get in more qualification matches.

The Team Pre-Order Lunch Option is available at http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nt.aspx?id=432 The deadline to place your order is April 9th, so if you are interested in pre-ordering lunches for your team act on this soon. IMPORTANT: Do not submit orders to FIRST. Please submit via mail or fax to: Levy Restaurants * One Georgia Dome Drive * Atlanta, GA 30313 * Phone (404) 223.8500 * Fax (404) 223.8556

Robots/Crates: You must ship your robot and any additional crates home through Shepard Exposition Services. You cannot take your robot or crate from the event unless you have received written permission from FRC. See Section 4.5.9 of the Manual for instructions on requesting a shipping exception. All exception requests for the CMP should be received by April 5, 2010.

Finally, if you have any questions about the event, please don’t hesitate to contact Team Support at frcteams@usfirst.org or 800-871-8326, "0."

Go 2010 CMP Teams!
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Updated Championship Information

Pit map shows a lot more that 85 teams in each division. Unless I counted wrong - I see 98 spots for Newton
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Updated Championship Information

holy moly, qual rounds a 1/2 day early. I guess your assumption is correct in that there are more teams competing ever compared to previous years... Shame I'm not going this year =\

not unless someone wants to room up with me =). I don't take a whole lot of space and fit in most small overhead compartments =D.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Updated Championship Information

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Pit map shows a lot more that 85 teams in each division. Unless I counted wrong - I see 98 spots for Newton
Here's what I got:

Archimedes: 79
Curie: 90
Galileo: 89
Newton: 98

Seems a bit odd.
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Pit map shows a lot more that 85 teams in each division. Unless I counted wrong - I see 98 spots for Newton
Raul,

The map is a bit strange. I confirmed your count of 98 Pits in Newton, but then there are 90 Pits each in Galileo and Curie, and 79 Pits in Archimedes.

I'm guessing that this map is incorrect or subject to revision.
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OK, that is still 356 spots total (89/division). I think in past years we have had 344 teams max. This may provide more teams an opportunity from the waiting list.

When you think about it 90 is the perfect number per division since it allows a nice round number of matches (84 also works). Assuming 90, if every team gets 8 matches, total matches per division will be 120. If 9 matches per team, it would be 135 total matches. The agenda gives us 13 hours and 50 minutes of play time. That is 950 minutes.

Based on potential field issues popping up, it would be best to set up with 120 total matches, allowing 7.92 mintes per match. And if they go with 135, that is 7.04 minutes per match which is less than what was averaged at most regionals. But that would just mean that we would have to run longer in the day than the agenda states.

Let's see what FIRST decides.
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We played 8 matches in 07, 7 matches in 08 & 09. if everyone could get 9 matches would be great!
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Were you a surrogate in 2007? We've gotten 7 Qualification matches every year since 2006.

I'd love to see FIRST try everything they can (Within Reason) to get 9 qualification matches for every team. This should help ensure proper seeding, in addition to making teams feel like they've gotten their money's worth.
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We played 8 matches in 07, 7 matches in 08 & 09. if everyone could get 9 matches would be great!
Everyone got 7 matches in '07 your team just got a surrogate match. We have had 7 matches in divisions for as long as I can remember. I have never understood why FIRST would run surrogate matches when they have a waitlist of teams. They also make divisions uneven (87, 87, 86, and 88 last year) which is even more confusing.

Just invite a number of teams divisible by 6 (or 3 if you plan on running an even number of matches) per division. I would love to see 90 team 9 matches/team, however I think it is just as likely that we see 87 at 8 matches/team or many crazy combinations that result in surrogate matches
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Nobody wants to comment on the Wednesday pit open and inspections? Inspections will be available from 6-9 PM.
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Were you a surrogate in 2007? We've gotten 7 Qualification matches every year since 2006.

I'd love to see FIRST try everything they can (Within Reason) to get 9 qualification matches for every team. This should help ensure proper seeding, in addition to making teams feel like they've gotten their money's worth.
Yeah I am pretty sure one of the matches was a surrogate match.
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Al,
That is the best improvement I have seen yet at CMP.
Allowing more matches to be played and finally being smart about utilizing Wed better to get inspections, unpacking of crate, and getting robots ready ahead of time!
Yay! Someone(s) are listening back at FIRST headquarters!
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Glenn,
Ask me again about April 20 or so.
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Glenn,
Ask me again about April 20 or so.
Oh! I am sure you will be VERY busy!
Thanks for all the volunteer work year after year. I'll be sure to send some macnut chocolates to you.
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Nobody wants to comment on the Wednesday pit open and inspections? Inspections will be available from 6-9 PM.
I'm glad you are able to work on your bot Wed night now too. There's no way you'd be able to make big changes to your machine and be ready for Thursday afternoon matches without that.
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