Scoring error at Boston.

[GaryVoshol]

It has been reported that the sensors are very sensitive to balls going backward through the goal. It is not widely documented, but the score system is meant to work this way, based on rule <G16>:

<G16> BALL Return - HUMAN PLAYERS must place BALLS on the BALL RETURN using the TRIDENT. No other means are permitted for TEAMS to return BALLS to the FIELD. Violation: Two PENALTIES and YELLOW CARD.

If the ball goes backward through the sensor, even slightly, the score system automatically deducts two points as the penalty.

[MikeE]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

If the ball goes backward through the sensor, even slightly, the score system automatically deducts two points as the penalty.

So a ball scored with a hard kick hitting one already in the ball counting mechaism could result in a reduction in score, or at least the second goal not being scored.

[JamesBrown]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

It has been reported that the sensors are very sensitive to balls going backward through the goal. It is not widely documented, but the score system is meant to work this way, based on rule <G16>:
If the ball goes backward through the sensor, even slightly, the score system automatically deducts two points as the penalty.

It looks like this is what is happening, however, I have seen it happen when it did not appear that a ball was feeding backwards. I am curious how relaible the system really is. It seems that it may be false triggering.

[MikeE]

Originally Posted by JamesBrown

It looks like this is what is happening, however, I have seen it happen when it did not appear that a ball was feeding backwards. I am curious how relaible the system really is. It seems that it may be false triggering.

I really hope that this problem is rare enough that it hasn't affected any of the Elimination matches at Regionals.

[JamesBrown]

It seems like it realistically could be effecting Elimination matches. In the video of the match your teammate posted you guys won by 2 points. My team was on the other alliance and sat dead through the match. Had we not sat dead we could have put in a couple of balls and hung, then the points you guys lost would have been the difference in the match.

It seems like this problem is more likely to happen when good robots pair up. When you have a good bot in the middle zone balls tend to collect right infront of the goal, this makes it easy for the front zone robot to push them in. This also appears to be the direct cause of the problem.