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What about 1992? I'd like to propose 190, 45, or 195.
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What about 1992? I'd like to propose 190, 45, or 195.
Don't forget Wildstang who started in '92. Took four years off and started over.
They have a resume that is hard to beat.
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What about 1992? I'd like to propose 190, 45, or 195.
With all due respect to those teams...

I think 111 is 92 as well, and I think with their recent success they are the clear winners of that category.

Also 126 hasn't even got a mention...they have one national championship (1992), two national finalists (1995, 2000), and 6 regional wins.

Also, was 148 technically a winner of 1993 as well? I believe it was Texas Instruments (or e-systems) and Greenville High School who won that year, if that was the case I think that would put 148 at 2 CMP wins?
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With all due respect to those teams...

I think 111 is 92 as well, and I think with their recent success they are the clear winners of that category.

Also 126 hasn't even got a mention...they have one national championship (1992), two national finalists (1995, 2000), and 6 regional wins.

Also, was 148 technically a winner of 1993 as well? I believe it was Texas Instruments and Greenville High Schol who won that year, if that was the case I think that would put 148 at 2 CMP wins?
Wildstang isn't 92 they are 96
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Wildstang isn't 92 they are 96
Incorrect...see link.


http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles..._Team_List.pdf

Also note that the 1993 winner was E-Systems and Dallas Christian Schools...which I believe E-Systems was based out of Greenville, and thus qualifies as 148...so that would give them 2 CMP wins.

1993 I think would belong to current team 151, Sanders and Nashua HS is what they were back in the day. They have a regional victory and chairmans award...of course you could also factor in the team from Edison Tech which you could consider to be Tigerbolt team 73 which won the CMP event in 1996.

1994 would easily go to now defunct team Proctor and Gamble and Walnut Hills High School team 144...arguably the first true powerhouse in the history of FIRST. They won the CMP event in 1994 and have a CMP Chairmans under their belt.
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Incorrect...see link.


http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles..._Team_List.pdf

Also note that the 1993 winner was E-Systems and Dallas Christian Schools...which I believe E-Systems was based out of Greenville, and thus qualifies as 148...so that would give them 2 CMP wins.
Based on records found at http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php:


Wildstang competed in 1992 and didn't compete again until 1996.

E-Systems sponsored a team belonging to Dallas Christian Schools for four years (92-95), and the location of the school switched three times. It also sponsored a team belonging to Greenville Public Schools starting in 1994, known today as 148.
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Based on records found at http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php:


Wildstang competed in 1992 and didn't compete again until 1996.

E-Systems sponsored a team belonging to Dallas Christian Schools for four years (92-95), and the location of the school switched three times. It also sponsored a team belonging to Greenville Public Schools starting in 1994, known today as 148.
Agreed on that info...however I believe 148 is considered a legacy team and that would only be possible if they counted the Dallas Christian School team as 148. Maybe someone from the Wranglers could clear that up for us.

As for Wilstang...you can't just choose to ignore 1992 because they took a 4 year hiatus, can you? I think they were one of the finalists (Back then I believe there were 4...126, 190, 111, and I am unsure of who the fourth one was.)

If I were making the decision, I would call them a rookie in 1992...that would put the order...111, followed by 148, followed by 126, followed by 190
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E-Systems sponsored a team belonging to Dallas Christian Schools for four years (92-95), and the location of the school switched three times. It also sponsored a team belonging to Greenville Public Schools starting in 1994, known today as 148.
Those are the same team, now known as 148, the Robowranglers.

The team was originally sponsored by the E-Systems facility in Greenville, TX and the Dallas Christian School. In 1994, Greenville High School joined the team (and Greenville ISD became the second major sponsor), but later became the sole high school. The Greenville E-Systems facility was acquired by Raytheon in the late 1990s, who sponsored 148 until the Greenville facility was sold to L3 Communications in 2002, who continues to sponsor 148 to the present. Innovation First began sponsoring 148 in 2007.
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1994 would easily go to now defunct team Proctor and Gamble and Walnut Hills High School team 144...arguably the first true powerhouse in the history of FIRST. They won the CMP event in 1994 and have a CMP Chairmans under their belt.
I don't disagree that 144 was the best team to start from 1994. However, they don't exist anymore. All the teams on the list so far are currently competing.
Hey, gotta stick up for my team.
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Re: Best Robots by Age

I want to clarify some details. WildStang's true rookie year was 1996. In 1992 it was only one school from our School District that had founded a separate team that had been retired after that last year. The WildStang that everyone knows is actually the combination of Wheeling High School (WildCats) and Rolling Meadows High School (Mustangs) which was created with a larger funding and supporting system. Also WildStang did win Rookie All-Star at the Championship in 1996
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I don't disagree that 144 was the best team to start from 1994. However, they don't exist anymore. All the teams on the list so far are currently competing.
Hey, gotta stick up for my team.

Two can play at this game! Now that Erik has clarified that Wildstang was a rookie in 1996 (blast it, Erik, for proving me wrong!)...If we don't count 144, under the new rookie year rules, Team CHAOS now becomes a rookie in 1994! 3 Regional Championships, 1 CMP Finalist...BAM! Sorry J-Rod, taking that one right out from under your nose!

In all seriousness...this is a pretty cool thread. It's really neat to see who came from when and look at the incredible classes of teams that we have had over the years.
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I feel I need to throw in at least a 2012 honorable mention for 4294 (Startrek). They are a michigan rookie headed to the championship via competitive points acrued throughout the season. They were the first team at Kettering to pass inspection*, they were kettering champs (3rd bot), an alliance captain at their next competition, and an alliance captain at MSC. they have been fast learners and have improved their robot from a 2WD with caster to a 6x6 and even added an effective stinger at MSC (they may be the highest number with a stinger).

*After being the first to pass inspection, and on the first pass through, I told them I was really impressed. Their response was: "We just read the rules and made a simple robot. Don't most teams pass the first time through?"

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I totally agree with 4292 (Startrek) for 2012. With being a rookie i was very scared with balancing with them but they turned out to be one of the easiest team to balance with. If your not from Michigan, your missing out. Startrek is an amazing team.
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I feel I need to throw in at least a 2012 honorable mention for 4294 (Startrek). They are a michigan rookie headed to the championship via competitive points acrued throughout the season. They were the first team at Kettering to pass inspection*, they were kettering champs (3rd bot), an alliance captain at their next competition, and an alliance captain at MSC. they have been fast learners and have improved their robot from a 2WD with caster to a 6x6 and even added an effective stinger at MSC (they may be the highest number with a stinger).

*After being the first to pass inspection, and on the first pass through, I told them I was really impressed. Their response was: "We just read the rules and made a simple robot. Don't most teams pass the first time through?"
+1 for 4294

A lot of times during the awards they say that a Rookie Team "Gets It!", with Startrek they really do Get It. As Ike has said they are fast learners and have really taken the idea of continuous improvement to heart.

I look forward to seeing them in St Louis, as well as years to come.

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