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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

Hmm now that they results are posted.

1918 picks 469 - accept
67 picks 33 - accept
573 picks 27 or 217 - accept
70 picks the leftover or 910 - accept
1718 picks leftover - accept

just my thoughts. All powerhouse scorers will be gone fast.
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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

Well the Alliance are as follows:

1918 2834 469
573 1023 51
2612 67 217
33 1718 308
2619 226 2337
2137 70 910
2771 397 1711
201 27 703

Personally, I think that 67, 217 and 2612 will take this one. No disrespect to the first seed, but I saw 217 steal balls from 469, and this time, they can just get it one zone over, where 67 will be eagerly waiting to score.

Nice props to 201 and 27 getting together and 33 1718 are also a force to be reckoned with.
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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

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You have brought up an interesting point here. It seems that a by product of the Michigan District system is an overall higher level of teams coming out of the State. I haven't seen any events with scores that can even compare to those of MSC. Teams are coming out of the Michigan District System with between 40 and 60 Matches on their records, before the Championship, while most Teams are lucky if they play that many matches in 2 or 3 seasons. I'd say a large portion of the success of Michigan Teams at the Championship will be because of this experience..
I still say we don't have nearly enough unbiased data to make this claim. Michigan has always been tremendously successful because of the caliber of teams from the state (stemming from incredible sponsors, teachers, and mentors concentrated in that area). See this thread I wrote after championship.
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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

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I still say we don't have nearly enough unbiased data to make this claim. Michigan has always been tremendously successful because of the caliber of teams from the state (stemming from incredible sponsors, teachers, and mentors concentrated in that area). See this thread I wrote after championship.
I agree with Sean here. The number of matches does play a part in how well these teams perform. But even in the early district events, Michigan teams (not just the top dogs we all talk about) were putting up numbers and performing well enough to be top contenders at any other regional. There are "lower end" robots in Michigan who could easily take down alliances from other regionals or put up significant fights.
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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

A big part for the higher ranking scores is they way they are playing.
I dont see much defense played at all.
Either 1 or 2 teams in the home zone and either 1 or 2 teams in the middle.
I saw a lot of alliances leaving the far zone empty with the mentality that we will outscore you, IMO. A true coopertition strategy in the race to the top of the rankings.
For many that ARE playing defense, they are doing things that a real goalie would never do. Thus, ineffective.

The bold prediction of Einstein will depend a lot on where teams are placed in the divisions at CMP. It'll be very highly anticipated in addition to Looking Forward's post.
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