2337 hung-2959 suspended

[BIGWILLI2081]

great hangers! the picture/video are works of art

[Ty Tremblay]

After watching that video, I'd venture to say that 2337 is one of the fastest top bar hangers in the world (if not THE fastest).

[Agentarrow]

I was checking my FRC Spyder app for rankings when I hear a "whack!" Which, of course I just think "oh, Enginerds are up", and then I hear a second robot and the crowd goes wild. I look up only to have my jaw drop. That was quite possibly the coolest thing at MSC this weekend. I had to take one of your buttons and wear it for the rest of the day immediately after that. It's a shame that you couldn't get it to work again during elims, no matter how hard you tried. That would have been a spectacle. Anyway, Congrats 2337 for an excellent design and to 2959 for helping accomplish a rare feat. Bravo.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

After watching that video, I'd venture to say that 2337 is one of the fastest top bar hangers in the world (if not THE fastest).

Eh, their suspension bar deploy is fast, but their lift time from the ground after that is a pretty normal 3 inches / second or so.

[Zach O]

As soon as more pictures are posted, I'll make sure they show up in this post. Currently, however, I've still yet to see any pictures other then the one John Crombe has posted (thank you for that picture!).

[Sandee]

Awesome to see!!!!!!!!!!! Great job to both the teams....

[Agentarrow]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Eh, their suspension bar deploy is fast, but their lift time from the ground after that is a pretty normal 3 inches / second or so.

It's not the fact that they hang quickly, it's the fact that they have such an awesome way of doing it. After watching so many robots do it the conventional; way, by throwing a hook up to grab the bar, a few robots made me cheer every time they hung, simply because of how cool they looked doing it. Enginerds and Army of Sum were two such teams.

[Daniel Ernst]

It usually takes me several days to process the thousands of photos I take at competitions, but I thought this feat deserved special attention.
Nicely done!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/

[Bill_B]

Close examination of Daniel's superb photography reveals that 2337 was not carrying their ball redirection gear, and that 2959 was suspending by only one of their two hooks. Looks to me as though the bonus for suspending should have been ten(10!), given its difficulty and now observed rarity. 22 points for a hanging and two suspensions? Seems OK to me.

[JABot67]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

Looks to me as though the bonus for suspending should have been ten(10!), given its difficulty and now observed rarity.

If suspension was worth 10 points, it would definitely be less rare. More teams would build their entire designs off suspending, and teams like 1114 would make it so they could score effectively AND suspend a robot every match.

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by JABot67

If suspension was worth 10 points, it would definitely be less rare. More teams would build their entire designs off suspending, and teams like 1114 would make it so they could score effectively AND suspend a robot every match.

Glad when someone gets my point . Maybe some post-season event would like to modify scoring slightly? FIRST has always tried to encourage inter-team communication. Some enterprising (powerhouse?) team would have to propose a suspension attachment standard, get it accepted by others, practice, all in addition to building a regular robot of their own. As it was, 2337 did the logical thing and tried to duplicate the actual field attachment points.

[Zach O]

Picures were up in the gallery. Thank you to Daniel Ernst for the pictures!

Originally Posted by Bill_B

Close examination of Daniel's superb photography reveals that 2337 was not carrying their ball redirection gear, and that 2959 was suspending by only one of their two hooks. Looks to me as though the bonus for suspending should have been ten(10!), given its difficulty and now observed rarity. 22 points for a hanging and two suspensions? Seems OK to me.

The awesome part of our design is that we went though stress analysis on our hanger, and even if we had missed a hook, we still could have held one robot. The sections that were cut out of our hooks we also did stress analysis on, and realized we had no stress on those places. Even the hook we have now is more then we need, but we keep on what we have just to be safe.

[Clinton Bolinger]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

Close examination of Daniel's superb photography reveals that 2337 was not carrying their ball redirection gear,

That statement is not entirely true. Yes, Dan has some superb photography, but Team 2337 does in fact still have their ball redirection gear or diverter on their robot.

We do not have to change anything on our robot in order for people to suspend on us. So theoretically we could suspend a robot every match, if everything works as planned (which it doesn't always go as planned because this is FIRST).

I would like to Thank Team 2959 for the excellent execution of the suspension and helping our team complete a goal and objective for this season, we could not have done it without you. Also nice work on backing off to allow us to get elevated (I think your scissor lift was pinching our bumpers preventing us from lifting).

I think this is my favorite picture Dan took - http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniele...7623766907840/

-Clinton-

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger

That statement is not entirely true. Yes, Dan has some superb photography, but Team 2337 does in fact still have their ball redirection gear or diverter on their robot.
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-Clinton-

O I C . I evidently have yours confused with someone else's. I saw the slanted panel but I thought there was more to it. Now I've found the diverter of which I was thinking. It was team 51's entirely different design. Sorry for the apparent brain-freeze here.

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by Zach O

The awesome part of our design is that we went though stress analysis on our hanger, and even if we had missed a hook, we still could have held one robot. The sections that were cut out of our hooks we also did stress analysis on, and realized we had no stress on those places. Even the hook we have now is more then we need, but we keep on what we have just to be safe.

Is there a web page with the process described? I'm looking for an excuse to make some plexiglass models and illuminate them with polarized light. Or did you do something easier and/or cooler?