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Awesome defense... probably the best I have seen. Will Rosie be at the Championship this season?
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

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Awesome defense... probably the best I have seen. Will Rosie be at the Championship this season?
At what point does awesome defense end and ridiculous violations of the rules begin? Unfortunately, I missed this match, but this video confirms our thoughts of Rosie being too aggressive defensively the entire year.

Regardless of weather the self righting period wad ended, Rosie made contact with a robot outside of the bumper zone.That is a cut-and-dry violation of the rules and deserved a penalty. As for stuffing the robot in the goal, it was clearly intentional, because if you look Rosie was touching the bump before they started pushing 1501, and they didn't stop until they were completely in the goal. I would not call the play entanglement, as our robot got caught on the ledge multiple times, but it may be the most un-GP play of the season.

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Regardless of weather the self righting period wad ended, Rosie made contact with a robot outside of the bumper zone.That is a cut-and-dry violation of the rules and deserved a penalty. .
Accidents happen. If called for incidental contact, it's a one point penalty. I'm sure they stopped more than one point from being scored.

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As for stuffing the robot in the goal, it was clearly intentional, because if you look Rosie was touching the bump before they started pushing 1501, and they didn't stop until they were completely in the goal. I would not call the play entanglement, as our robot got caught on the ledge multiple times, but it may be the most un-GP play of the season.
If I didn't want to get stuck in a goal, I wouldn't build a robot that could get stuck in a goal. I don't see how this is an issue. Looks like smart play to me. Can someone cite a portion of the rules that proves me wrong?
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

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If I didn't want to get stuck in a goal, I wouldn't build a robot that could get stuck in a goal. I don't see how this is an issue. Looks like smart play to me. Can someone cite a portion of the rules that proves me wrong?
I agree 100%. We never got pushed into a goal but I am fairly confidant we couldn't get stuck there if we were. This was something that was thought about during our design process.
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

I (personally) don't really care about the legality, we didn't argue that at the time of the match. It was the later comment that has been deleted.... we didn't bring this up.

That being said, I guess I just don't see the pride in beating a team by taking out their robot.... I'd rather lose to a team knowing we both competed at our best than to win by taking them out....

It's how I coach my 5th grade basketball team, how I'll coach my FLL team, and how I'd call it if I were a drive coach. If that's how a team preferred to play, then regardless of how good there bot was, I wouldn't choose them for my alliance.... if you can't win/don't want to win 3 on 3, than you probably don't deserve to win, in my estimation.

Not saying it's necessarily right or wrong, it's just how I prefer to go about things. Feel free to blast me now.
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