Rosie stuffs Thrust

[Ian Curtis]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I know people joke about "New England Defense", but it's really the same as Midwest defense and stuff. Besides, the rules should be the same everywhere, no?

I don't think they are. Some of our referees have been around since the days of the overcrowded Manchester high school gym. The rules might be the same on paper, but the way they get interpreted is different.

In 2007, arms got whacked all over the place at BAE. Not a single penalty was called, but IIRC this was a big source of penalties around the country.

Same thing in Triple Play (2005). There was tons of arm contact, but no (or at least very few) penalties. IMHO, it was a much more interesting game when played defensively.

At least, this was true in Manchester. BAE recently got a new head ref, so this era may be at an end. I certainly saw way more yellow/red cards this year than ever before.

[Meredith Novak]

Dana Henry is one of my favorite people in FIRST - a real hero. Chris Elston is one of my newest favorite people in FIRST - another real hero. Great job, mentors!

[Lil' Lavery]

I do not think Rosie's move to push 1501 into the goal was illegal. If you look at the greater context of the "entanglement" usage in other rules (and it's roots in the 2002 game), you can reach the conclusion that it's based on entangling another bot with your robot.

<G40> ROBOT to ROBOT Entanglement – ROBOTS may not entangle other ROBOTS. The TEAM will be required to repair the entangling elements before the ROBOT will be permitted to participate in subsequent MATCHES. Violation: Disablement if attempts to disengage are causing damage or a dangerous situation or if entanglement occurs repeatedly, plus a RED CARD if a ROBOT intentionally entangles an opposing ROBOT.

It isn't explicitly stated that's what "entanglement" means in <G36>, but my educated guess leads me to believe that's the spirit of the rule.

Originally Posted by Chris_Elston

Next time, I'll try and think faster and coach my alliance to use the end of the trident to dig it out of the goal instead of e-stopping and come right back fighting again.

I would suggest you don't do that, as you'll receive a penalty and become disabled.

<G15> BALL Handling – BALLS may be handled by any TEAM member when BALLS are in the CORRAL or ALLIANCE STATION. BALLS may not be handled until they have exited from the BALL COUNTER and are in the CORRAL. Violation: PENALTY.

<S02> TEAM Member Safety – For reasons of personal safety, contact with ROBOTS and/or entering the FIELD are prohibited during a MATCH.
a. TEAM members may not directly contact any ROBOT at any time during the MATCH. Violation: PENALTY and Disablement.
b. TEAM members may not extend any part of their body into the FIELD during the MATCH. Violation: PENALTY.

[JohnBoucher]

IMHO 1501 was the class robot of the regional. In hindsight, I wish we had built that robot. Fast, accurate and agile, 1501 had all the moves.
It was terrific meeting all of them. We were very happy to have them in the house.
I agree that Rosie contacted the underside, but they backed off. More importantly it was bumper to bumper all the way into the goal.