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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

Dana Henry is one of my favorite people in FIRST - a real hero. Chris Elston is one of my newest favorite people in FIRST - another real hero. Great job, mentors!

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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

I do not think Rosie's move to push 1501 into the goal was illegal. If you look at the greater context of the "entanglement" usage in other rules (and it's roots in the 2002 game), you can reach the conclusion that it's based on entangling another bot with your robot.

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<G40> ROBOT to ROBOT Entanglement – ROBOTS may not entangle other ROBOTS. The TEAM will be required to repair the entangling elements before the ROBOT will be permitted to participate in subsequent MATCHES. Violation: Disablement if attempts to disengage are causing damage or a dangerous situation or if entanglement occurs repeatedly, plus a RED CARD if a ROBOT intentionally entangles an opposing ROBOT.
It isn't explicitly stated that's what "entanglement" means in <G36>, but my educated guess leads me to believe that's the spirit of the rule.

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Next time, I'll try and think faster and coach my alliance to use the end of the trident to dig it out of the goal instead of e-stopping and come right back fighting again.
I would suggest you don't do that, as you'll receive a penalty and become disabled.

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<G15> BALL Handling – BALLS may be handled by any TEAM member when BALLS are in the CORRAL or ALLIANCE STATION. BALLS may not be handled until they have exited from the BALL COUNTER and are in the CORRAL. Violation: PENALTY.

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In the event that BALLS become dammed in the GOAL at the mouth of the BALL COUNTER, a HUMAN PLAYER may use the handle end of the TRIDENT to dislodge the BALLS by placing it through the hole in the clear Lexan cover on top of the GOAL. Only balls dislodged before the automatic counter stops counting will be SCORED. Note that the TRIDENT or anything else may not be placed through this access hole at any other time or the TEAM will be charged with a violation of <S02>. Similarly, when dislodging BALLS, if the TRIDENT comes in contact with a ROBOT, <S02> will be invoked.
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b. TEAM members may not extend any part of their body into the FIELD during the MATCH. Violation: PENALTY.
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

IMHO 1501 was the class robot of the regional. In hindsight, I wish we had built that robot. Fast, accurate and agile, 1501 had all the moves.
It was terrific meeting all of them. We were very happy to have them in the house.
I agree that Rosie contacted the underside, but they backed off. More importantly it was bumper to bumper all the way into the goal.
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