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Re: Sacrificing a State Championship for the Cause???

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Originally Posted by GGCO View Post
469 is an amazing machine. I believe that they lawyered their way around an incredible amount of rules, and that their bot isn't in "the spirit of the game". After seeing their robot in action, there were many red flags that went off in my team's heads. We looked up the rules that we thought they were breaking, but couldn't find anything they broke. They definitely read the rules very literally.

At MSC, there were a couple of alliances that were able to shut them down. The key was starving them. Also, if the Thunderchickens had a side-kicker then they would have been able to defeat 469 with ease. They could have just moved back-and-forth, and then hit the ball across the field as soon as they blocked it.

469 is the most hated team in the FRC, but I'd be willing to bet that 469 gets to Einstein. However, I know that I'll be rooting for the other team no matter what.
I think you are letting your emotions run away with you.

First, I don't think that 469 "lawyered" their way into anything. The rules are the rules. Not only do the rules as initially published make their design legal, a clarification relatively early by FIRST reaffirmed the legality of their machine. Moreover, there are other machines that do similar things (albeit not as well). Is it the rules we are worried about or just the effectiveness of the implementation?

Second, 469 is in no way the "most hated" team in FRC or anywhere else. Perhaps you are referring to the shouts of joy in the stands at MSC when 469 tipped over or had any sort of hiccup. If so, I think you are confusing relief that there may be SOME hope for us mortals with actual anger at the team.

Do not confuse competitive reactions with actual dislike.

Las Guerrillas was, is and will remain (God willing) one of the fixtures of the Michigan FIRST landscape. Their storied past and their fearsome robots as well as their efforts to advance FIRST in Michigan and around the country/world are legendary.

Here's to Las Guerrillas. Well done, well done, well done.

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