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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

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Their robot is designed not to even go up those ramps. It's difficult to push them up, and the carpeting was torn afterward.

Just thought I'd clarify that it's not a robot that is designed that way...
So, again, if a robot gets trapped against the side rails due to it's design (is designed not to interact with the side rails of the field), and damages them when it comes into contact with them, then it is a "egregious behavior" to push them up against the side rails?

It's no different than pushing a team over the bump if they are not designed to go there, or into the goal if they cannot get out.

If anything 1501 damaged the field due to their design.
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

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If anything 1501 damaged the field due to their design.
That's like saying if you flip a team that has a hook and push them across the floor, tearing up the carpet with said hook, the flipped team damaged the field with their design. 1501 didn't do anything, another robot manipulated them up a ramp, so how can THEY have damaged the field?
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

Team X damages carpet because they're doing something they aren't designed to do, under the influence of another team. <G13> is applied. No penalty is given.
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

It is my opinion that anything that can be done by simply pushing a bot cannot be ruled as illegal unless of course the opponent is trying to hang but that is because a bot is trying to pull itself off of the ground. All 839 did was push 1501 across the field.

This is the same thing as when teams push defensive bots into goals and trap them there. These teams are doing nothing wrong and 839 didn't do anything wrong either.

I have to admit when I first took a look at 1501's robot pushing them right into the goal was the first thing that came to my mind.
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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

After all is said & done, you have to look at what each driver was going through at the heat of the moment. I was FTAA here & it is impossible to see everything that happens on the field. I didn't see the commotion about the tipping, but the pushing in the goal was really noticed by everybody. You can't say that just Rosie was the only team that did some things that were considered questionable. I saw many matches, but that was just what happens "in the heat of the moment" I only saw Thrust get shoved into the goal once, so in my opinion, they got caught up in the excitement. Thrust was & is a formidable robot, no question about it. Rosie was just trying to defend the goal. I saw other robots get shoved into the goals, it's just that Thrust's design denies them the ability to reverse out. As for the ripped carpet, this happens. The only penalties were called if a robot was spinning it's wheels intentionally & burning up the carpet. This happened at the Suffield Shakedwon & resulted in going through the carpet, plastic tarp & slightly scoring the gym floor.

All in all, I thought CT was a great competition. Rosie has built a robot that can go far in the competition.

To all teams headed to Atlanta, good luck!
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