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Undefeated Teams at Regional Events

After going undefeated at North Star, we were curious just how many teams did it this year at other events. Turns out the list is much longer than I expected. By my count, it was done 19 times. 2 teams did it at more than one event (1114 & 359). 1114 (3 events) & 971 (1 event) are the only undefeated teams for the season.

Here's my list. Please add omissions, or correct mistakes.

359 @ Arizona & Hawaii
217 @ Cass Tech
25 @ Las Vegas
1676 @ Virginia
1114 @ Pittsburg & Waterloo & Toronto (!!!)
2630 @ Isreal
2669 @ Isreal
971 @ Silicon Valley
254 @ Silicon Valley
1732 @ Midwest
1208 @ St. Louis
148 @ Dallas
368 @ Hawaii
1124 @ Connecticut
71 @ North Star
1986 @ North Star
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217 at Cass tech District (18-0-0)
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Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events

I think 356 on your list should be 359. If that's the case, you have them twice.

971 is also undefeated for the season (only attending 1 regional). The last time 971 was undefeated prior to the championship, they won the championship.
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Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events

525 was REALLY close... They only lost in the Finals at Minnesota 10,000 Lakes.
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I had other mistakes, but they were in the list.
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1114 isn't undefeated. They got DQ'ed twice at Waterloo.
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Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events

25 was actually one penalty free match from being undefeated at New Jersey (and for the season). It sort of reminds you of this and this
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1114 isn't undefeated. They got DQ'ed twice at Waterloo.
Not sure that qualifies as defeated. Not reflected in their record at least. I'm not touting any particular team, just sharing some research.
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How did they get DQ'd?.. I just never seen it... and certainly not from a team like 1114!
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I was shocked that for a 28 team regional in HI with 12 matches, we never had to play against 368. Both of us at 18-0-0 will never happen again.
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How did they get DQ'd?.. I just never seen it... and certainly not from a team like 1114!
Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.
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Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.
Certainly wouldn't call that a defeat. Just a "Doh!" moment.
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25 @ Las Vegas
25 is 31-1-0 after NJ and NV regionals. Their only loss was due to 14 DOGMA penalties in NJ final match 2.

In 2006, 25 also attended NJ and NV winning both with a record of 31-0-0.

Viva Las Vegas! That trip to Vegas seems to be 25's lucky charm for the season. Will they attend Vegas again any time soon?
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Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.


Yup, Josh has it right. It happened twice in Waterloo. The first time was a complete goof up on our part, we totally missed the presence of one of our partners in the defensive zone. The second time we were heading back over the bump to the defensive zone, but at the same time our partner zoomed through the tunnel and beat us into the zone. Either way, they were both a couple of embarrassing mistakes that Kyle Willick (The Commander) won't live down for a while.

(On the other hand, this goes down in a long line of embarrassing mistakes by Simbot coaches. In 2008, Derek Bessette had the drive team hurdle the wrong colour ball twice at the start of a match at the Midwest Regional.)

Anyways, back to the topic of undefeated teams, here is what the Simbot Research & Statistics teams has come up with:

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Team   R Desc   Result    Record     Standings        
359   Arizona   Regional Winner   8-0-2   1         
1124   Connecticut   Regional Winner   8-0-2   1    
148   Dallas   Regional Winner   9-0-0   1       
217   Cass Tech    Regional Winner   12-0-0   1            
359   Hawaii   Regional Winner   12-0-0   1       
368   Hawaii   Regional Winner   12-0-0   2       
1732   Midwest   Regional Winner   10-0-0   2             
1986   Minnesota North Star   Regional Winner   9-0-0   2       
71   Minnesota North Star   Regional Winner   8-0-1   1       
1208   St. Louis   Regional Winner   11-0-1   1       
25   Las Vegas   Regional Winner   10-0-0   1        
1114   Greater Toronto   Regional Winner   9-0-1   1       
1114   Pittsburgh   Regional Winner   11-0-1   1       
971   Silicon Valley   Regional Winner   10-0-0   1       
254   Silicon Valley   Regional Winner   9-0-1   2       
1676   Virginia   Regional Winner   9-0-0   1          
1114   Waterloo   Regional Winner   11-0-0   1       


All this and more will be included in the 2010 Team 1114 Championship Scouting Database, which will be released shortly after the announcement of the Championship divisions.
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