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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

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Just wait for Looking Forward's Championship predictions. I have a feeling they will be really well written and insightful. More than anything people will post up in this thread.
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I don't have any real predictions, except to say that I'm expecting 910 to tear up Newton, as long as they have someone to provide balls into the near zone.
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

Also in response to questions about 125's robot...

I made sure to take some video evidence for you folks to prove that 469 isn't THE CHOSEN ONE, per say. Hehe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzS9-M8Dcxg
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

I have extensive predictions as my scouting obsession tends to drive me, but to avoid harassment from those teams I haven't seen to know how good they are this year or what they can do aside from records I will post my einstein predictions only. Keep in mind my third partner predictions are based on close to nothing for the most part, but I did simulate a full selection for my own personal amusement Also keep in mind while I did avoid my personal team loyalty optimism on my Einstein predictions I didn't on Archimedes. I understand my alliances of 148 359 358, 86 118 1612, 234 71 45, and 330 254 604 are all very very viable winners of Archimedes. It's so competitive I prefer to just assume my former team will strategize so well to get past them all and even 469 and 1114 in my "less realistic" predictions although possible. I apologize if the use of less realistic offends anyone. haha

Archimedes: 25 341 103 over 148 359 358
Curie: 1114 469 2630 over 368 1676 1538
Galileo: 2056 217 1466 over 2016 1717 1696
Newton: 67 16 706 over 842 971 308

Einstein:

1114 469 2630 over 25 341 103
2056 217 1466 over 67 16 706
1114 469 2630 over 2056 217 1466

P.S. With the way this seeding system has worked out it shouldn't come as a surprise that I predicted all my division winners to be first seeds. (except Archimedes, but again it's so competitive and I have a great deal of bias toward the daisies as an alum. I mentioned that the first seed is 359 148 358 in my predictions for that division and logically, I believe that first seed would win the division as well but CMP strategies tend to surprise especially in a division like this. And yes, I do believe 103 will stay around this long. This is what I've found objectively scouting as a volunteer. I would hate for anyone to be offended, I am only trying to preemptively answer questions..which is prbably a bad idea.

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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

My gut predictions for now, I'll do more detailed revisions and analysis later.

Newton: 177, 971, 125
Galileo: 2056, 217, 51
Curie: 469, 1732, 2775
Archimedes: 1519, 148, 1124
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

No predictions, but a question. Lets say Curie ends early and 1114-469- ? are teamed up before you make picks on the other fields. Do you biuld your alliance to win your field and hope it is good enough to bet the before mentioned alliance or do you build your alliance to beat super alliance and hope you are good enough to win your field? Are they the same thing?
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

If 1114 and 469 meet up (which they will unless someone else gets number 1 seed and freezes up picking) then the god-alliance will have greeted the earth and only super-strategy combined with super-teams will be able to maybe overthrow them.
If they don't then I'm hoping for 1732 to be the first Wisconsin team on einstein.



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If 1114 and 496 meet up (which they will unless someone else gets number 1 seed and freezes up picking) then the god-alliance will have greeted the earth and only super-strategy combined with super-teams will be able to maybe overthrow them.
If they don't then I'm hoping for 1732 to be the first Wisconsin team on einstein.
Yea that 496 is a tough team.



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No predictions, but a question. Lets say Curie ends early and 1114-469- ? are teamed up before you make picks on the other fields. Do you biuld your alliance to win your field and hope it is good enough to bet the before mentioned alliance or do you build your alliance to beat super alliance and hope you are good enough to win your field? Are they the same thing?
I, personally, am a strong advocate of the belief that 1114 and 469 will ally, but it is possible to beat them, just as I believe 469 can be beaten alone. I believe the alliance to get to Einstein with three robots adept at both pinning and midfield scoring will have a strong shot. If an alliance can effectively pin 469 in midfield for the entire 2.25 minutes, which has not yet been done but only valiently attempted best I believe by the killer bees and More martians, or both 469 and the third partner using one robot and the other two robots or even one can just quickly score from midfield starving 1114 of balls, this alliance can be possibly defeated. I don't believe you can build an alliance for your division separately from an alliance to win Einstein, you have to build the best possible alliance. In no way should the best possible alliance be thrown together without considering the versatility and full advantage of each partner on the alliance. From the captain to the third partner, every robot on the alliance can and should be dominant.
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

I think that 365 will make a splash at Galileo. They are one of the best midfielder that I have seen in a long time--they have auto targeting that actually works.

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No predictions, but a question. Lets say Curie ends early and 1114-469- ? are teamed up before you make picks on the other fields. Do you biuld your alliance to win your field and hope it is good enough to bet the before mentioned alliance or do you build your alliance to beat super alliance and hope you are good enough to win your field? Are they the same thing?
I don't think that there is any team arrogant enough to try and do this. You have to build your alliance to win your field especially since you know that the 469 alliance can be defeated and won't necessarily make Einstein.
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

What would be cool, is to see 1114 on Einstein, squaring off against 2056 for the title. Win 2 regionals together this season (7 total, of 1114's 14 and 2056's 8), and face off on Einstein for all the marbles.

They played a few matches against each other at WAT and GTR, and 1114 consistently came out on top.
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I really don't think people in Boston understood the real value of a robot that guarantees balls returning to the near zone.
That's exactly what we do but we can also play other stratagies. It's difficult though Akash for teams to select just ball deflector teams. You really need to be more valuable than that. If you can hustle around the field during a match as well as deflect (us), it's not a bad choice. I hope we can get a good place on a great alliance in Archimedes this year!
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Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions

From a historical standpoint:

If Buzz (175) doesn't win a division it will be the first time in a decade they finish the season without winning a regional/division or winning the Chairman's award. (Curie)

Team Hammond (71) needs to make the Finals this year or in 2011 to keep the streak of never having a freshman class who didn't watch their robot compete in the World/National final match. (Archimedes)

177 must make Einstein to extend their streak of an annual Einstein match to 5 years. (Newton)

2056 has never lost a regional. That said, they have yet to make it to even the divisional finals in Atlanta. Is this the year? (Galileo)

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Guessing the winners is okay, but I challenge everyone to guess the entire eliminations bracket for all divisions. I refuse to acknowledge any criticism of my brackets until the criticizer posts his or her own.

The following are my predicted alliances, but I am not predicting which team in the alliance will be the alliance captain.

Newton
1. 16, 67, 226
2. 971, 1902, 2669
3. 525, 924, 1727
4. 910, 1868, 1922
5. 102, 343, 1718
6. 1592, 2377, 1619
7. 706, 801, 1073
8. 20, 868, 1208

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Galileo
1. 217, 1466, 2056
2. 79, 188, 1717
3. 100, 365, 1058
4. 230, 1086, 2990
5. 56, 230, 2834
6. 271, 1625, 1714
7. 2016, 2122, 3138
8. 51, 433, 1305

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1       2
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Curie
1. 469, 1114, 2345
2. 1649, 1676, 1732
3. 27, 88, 1251
4. 1511, 1538, 1986
5. 111, 171, 2992
6. 40, 627, 2337
7. 368, 573, 2775
8. 191, 832, 1421
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Archimedes
1. 254, 1319, 1918
2. 33, 148, 180
3. 201, 330, 359
4. 25, 341, 1583
5. 118, 234, 1987
6. 103, 1540, 375
7. 604, 1124, 1519
8. 86, 71, 2753

Code:
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So I predict all 1st seeds to move to Einstein. If I were to rank these alliance from strongest to weakest, they would be in the following order:

1. Curie 469, 1114, 2345
2. Galileo 217, 1466, 2056
3. Archimedes 254, 1319, 1918
4. Newton 16, 67, 226
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