2010 Highest Scoring Match

[Peter Johnson]

The first three matches of the LA finals probably belong in that list as well (in terms of total points scored).

LA Final 1-1 330 1717 1452 294 968 980 12 12 (tie, so TBA doesn't have the correct score)
LA Final 1-2 330 1717 1452 294 968 980 14 10
LA Final 1-3 330 1717 1452 294 968 980 8 10

Peter

[jspatz1]

Its not the high, but 1986, 71, and 2667 scored 18 in the semis at North Star. One of the highest "non-469" scores.

[sgreco]

Looks like match # 100 on Curie got 29 points...32 before penalties.

469 888 111 vs. 1114 231 288

[AmoryG]

Originally Posted by sgreco

Looks like match # 100 on Curie got 29 points...32 before penalties.

469 888 111 vs. 1114 231 288

Finally, 1114 has been "defeated"!

[RMiller]

Originally Posted by AmoryG

Finally, 1114 has been "defeated"!

If 6v0 is defeated: final score: 29-0.
So yes, "defeated."

[VanMan]

Originally Posted by RMiller

If 6v0 is defeated: final score: 29-0.
So yes, "defeated."

I'm still a little confused why they turned off their autonomous and scored for the other alliance. I know it has something to do with rankings, but I don't see why a loss should increase your rankings more than a win or a close match.

[sgreco]

Originally Posted by VanMan

I'm still a little confused why they turned off their autonomous and scored for the other alliance. I know it has something to do with rankings, but I don't see why a loss should increase your rankings more than a win or a close match.

When 1114 does a 6 v 0, and loses, they only get the opponents/winners score, so any balls they score wouldn't benefit them. Plus the balls they would score for their alliance would only count double to their opponents qual rankings, and any balls they moved from the red home zone would be balls that they could have eaily scored afterward in teleop, and since the goal was to scor ein red, there is no point in moving the balls further from the red goal.

[RMiller]

The seeding point system is:

Winner gets their penalized score + 2x opponent's unpenalized score + 5 points

Loser gets opponent's unpenalized score

In case of tie, teams get 3x their penalized score.

So, in this case, 29-0, with 3 penalties for red: red alliance got 34 seeding points and blue got 32 points.

[RMiller]

To expand, if both alliances scored 16 points with no penalties, both teams would get more seeding points: 16x3=48. However, with a penalty, and 16-15 score, one alliance would get 15 points and the other 53 points. Working together, they can guarantee not losing lots of seeding points.

[waialua359]

The biggest reasons to me are:
1114 instead of possibly losing ensured themselves of points that vaulted themselves to #1.
469 benefits by ensuring themselves to pair up with the best complimentary bot for eliminations.
1114 not scoring limits the coopertition points of the winners from gaining in the rankings.
What a sight to see!

[billbcc91]

I guess I find this a bit disappointing. Its a shame when the seeding system creates a situation where a team with a 57 match unbeaten streak decides it is in their best interest to lose, crushingly, on purpose. Congrats to 1114 though on an amazing season, I don't disagree with their rationale.

[Frank Neuperger]

Look at it as 57 straight matches of making the right decisions instead of just 57 winning matches.

[BrendanB]

When 469 plays good teams like 217 for example, the score drastically drops from 15+ to 5 to 5 tie. Even if you don't get the extra 5 points for being the winning alliance, I would definitely take the 29 ranking points over the 5.

Don't get carried away though, 6v0 does not work every time you use it. I just wish I had been there to see them play that match.

Archimedes highest score is 20-8 in qualification 59 (25,330,1622 vs 527,1987,1629)!

[Doug G]

Curie match 100 video...

www.vandenrobotics.com/Videos/cu_m100_hires.wmv

[VanMan]

Originally Posted by Frank Neuperger

Look at it as 57 straight matches of making the right decisions instead of just 57 winning matches.

It was the right decision and it was smart to do, but it does not mean that it wasn't disappointing. The ranking system this year is one of the biggest flawed ones I've ever seen. It also penalizes defense because defense make the scores lower, but in eliminations, ranking points don't matter so defense is important. Makes qualification matches and elimination matches completely different.