Curie 2010!

[sircedric4]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

I watched that match, and loved it! Your looper is just so beautiful in action, with the curve!

I know the trend is to talk about match 100, but I am back into the hotel now and want to say thanks to the above quote. This has turned into an awesome second year experience.

It's funny, the announcer today compared our looper to a lounge chair during one of the games (and called the wrong team name for our number but its stressful so I'll give him some slack. It's Prometheus. LOL) and after looking at our video this evening I thought it does look like a lounge chair when in looper mode. It gives me ideas for off season fund raisers. :-)

Anyway, we got to deploy the looper another couple of times today and its been real fun. Curie is shaping up to be an exciting division.

Now that the exclaiming of our team's elation and fun is over I will return to your regularly scheduled match 100 commentary and state that I pretty well walked out of match 100 as soon as I saw what 1114 was doing. I was looking forward to that match all day to see how the different bots played when against each other, and was disappointed to see teams playing the stupid coopertition aspect versus playing hard that match.

I can't blame 1114 because its obvious they are going for that 1st seed hard, but I do blame the GDC for coming up with a qualification system that rewards lawyering and shenanigans versus rewarding fun, competitive game play. It turned what should have been a super exciting match into a joke, and if nothing I hope this will be the last year of coopertition. You should qualify the same way you eliminate if you ask me.

Good luck to all in Curie.

[Grim Tuesday]

I watched the match with the lawnchair (webcast, of course), and have been wanting to ask you guys since then:

How was the beer?

[sircedric4]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

I watched the match with the lawnchair (webcast, of course), and have been wanting to ask you guys since then:

How was the beer?

Oh if only there was beer. :-) It would make the competition a lot more interesting for sure. But seeing as its about high schoolers we have to stick to fizzy and fruit drinks. LOL

I wish we would have thought of using a lawnchair, it would have made the construction a lot easier.

[HeatherM]

Just an ignorant Mom here, but could someone explain to me about match 110? Why did 1511 not get the 2 bonus points for a successful hang? At least from the web cast it looked high enough and in plenty of time. There was plenty of speculation about the red hang, but no discussion about 1511, so we thought it was a given, yet when final score was announced, no bonus for blue. ??

[Stephen Kowski]

Originally Posted by sircedric4

I can't blame 1114 because its obvious they are going for that 1st seed hard, but I do blame the GDC for coming up with a qualification system that rewards lawyering and shenanigans versus rewarding fun, competitive game play.

These are the rules as set out by the GDC so I think your portrayal of 'lawyering' and 'shenanigans' are inaccurate. This happened in 2003 on a large scale so the GDC knew what was coming.

1114 is just playing the game in an intelligent way so you are right not to blame them. These actions are not shenanigans or lawyering, they are just the rules as they were explained to EVERYONE. Characterizing their game play as shenanigans is a shot at them, you know that. If you want to criticize the GDC go ahead, but don't bring 1114 into it.

[StuMac]

Well, 1114 and 469 are together. Let's see how these strategies play out.

[dag0620]

No shock to 1114 and 469. I am a little shocked about 2041. However they seem like a good 3rd partner.

I'm just glad we finnaly know who the 3rd parter is on the Alliance we have been discussing about for so long. I hope everyone down there or back home has a good lunch, and Lets hope for some amazing elimination rounds in Curie.

[Mori1578]

GOOD LUCK ALLIANCE #2 - Wildstang (111), Thunderbolts (2630) and The Holy Cows (1538)!

Hope to see some good matches

[Radical Pi]

How'd that ball get stuck in the return for Q 4-2?

[rdlevy1215]

from what I heard on the webcast, somehow the ramp went into compression / was depressed and made a gap between the end of the ramp and the cross bar from the tower causing the ball to get stuck and all balls after to get stuck behind it.

[Tetraman]

please tell me someone has a recording of the MC shaking his thing speach. I want to do a techno remix of that.

[vhcook]

Curie division alliance selection (no declines)

1: 1114 (1) - 469 (21) - 2041 (28)
2: 111 (2) - 1538 (23) - 2630 (36)
3: 1986 (3) - 1676 (4) - 888 (54)
4: 2612 (5) - 27 (9) - 141 (80)
5: 1306 (6) - 2337 (19) - 624 (63)
6: 175 (7) - 88 (20) - 573 (18)
7: 3234 (8) - 2775 (12) - 40 (49)
8: 1511 (10) - 1732 (25) - 368 (13)

Backups are (if I'm reading correctly)
2992 (11)
126 (14)
1421 (15)
2169 (16)
830 (17)
115 (22)
2557 (24)
1764 (26)

[sircedric4]

Originally Posted by Stephen Kowski

These are the rules as set out by the GDC so I think your portrayal of 'lawyering' and 'shenanigans' are inaccurate. This happened in 2003 on a large scale so the GDC knew what was coming.

1114 is just playing the game in an intelligent way so you are right not to blame them. These actions are not shenanigans or lawyering, they are just the rules as they were explained to EVERYONE. Characterizing their game play as shenanigans is a shot at them, you know that. If you want to criticize the GDC go ahead, but don't bring 1114 into it.

Nope, not a shot at anyone that decides to play for strategy and it shouldn't be read that way. It was another vote for why I don't like the coopertition aspect. Sorry if it sounded un-GP or something, but I think if you read my other posts the last few weeks I'm as laid back as you can imagine so it wasn't meant at a shot at all and wanted that clarified. Still don't like the coopertition, as anything that rewards purposely tanking yourself to advance is not a good way to approach things.

Moving on to other things, our team had a blast at Curie this weekend and a very good weekend here in Atlanta. We learned quite a few things, finally got to see our robot go against some of the better teams in the nation and seeded 12th out of 84 with a win-loss record of 8-2. We were disappointed that we weren't picked, just like the other 60 teams that weren't, but Atlanta is always like that. Only so many can go on, and so many variables go into picking from scouting to politics to who you know and have played with before that we honestly weren't getting our hopes up to play in eliminations anyway.

Would have been nice, but at least we got one of the better seats in the house as the second backup robot for Curie's eliminations. :-) We wish everyone a safe and prosperous off-season, and congrats to the number one seed for winning Curie. Those were some fun games to watch this afternoon.

[BuzzMathias175]

Congratulations none the less to the winners of curie division, your were simply playing the game, maybe not in the spirit of the competition, but the game none the less congratulations, you bested curie division it was a shame you guys didn't go on to win the championship. Either way your guys had great bots cleverly and efficiently, designed and built.

[playbass06]

Congrats to all in the Curie division on their accomplishments! I was very surprised that our champion alliance didn't go on to win it all, but it's great that they got that far. Hey, it's an honor to lose to a great alliance!
Congrats to the finalist alliance, too, 1676, 888, 1421, and 1986!
888, you did great for the few matches you were available for. I wish you could have played longer.
1676, your midfield playing and high shooting scored several key goals and you shut down the opposing alliance from doing the same. Your hanging helped many times in matches.
1421, you were the best replacement we could have gotten. Your tactics kept us going all the way to finals, and I'm happy you were able to share in the Championship spirit.
And 1986, you're a great team to be on!

Hopefully we shall see all of you in Curie next year, whether it be at a regional or at the championships (I hope so... ), and good luck in advance!

On an unrelated note, I've been having account problems. I cannot post new threads. Anyone know how to contact an admin or moderator to correct this?
Also, if you didn't know, I had created a simulator for Breakaway, inspired by 5th Gear. The source file is now available at http://teamtitanium.org/resources.html (that's why I wondered how to create a new thread)