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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

I do agree with some of these points from be a spector and from my degree sandpoint, that i'm good into. i miss when they had two cameras and one camera would get a wide shot and the other would get close-up and medium close -up of the robot doing. i do agree that they do need a wide shot of the field, but do you find your robot that is on the field at the same time?
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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

Loren Burr of Team 70 totally agrees with this idea. It would be really convenient for reviewing matches from past competitions.
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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

Good way to get lots of people involved in FIRST: Convince your local TV Stations to broadcast FIRST events on TV.
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Full spectator field is not needed to make the videos better. As previously stated, the action just needs to be shown, not watching a dead robot, drive team, robot bashing into the wall when it should be on the team playing hard or highlights of the match. Depending on the quality of the webcast, all I can see is people complaining because they can't see the robots because they are too small in the shot and resolution is bad.

I vote that instead a volunteer at every even work with the camera men to tell them what to put up. This person would watch the field and tell them what robot to show and in slower sections of the match show a full size or partial field.

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Full spectator field is not needed to make the videos better. As previously stated, the action just needs to be shown, not watching a dead robot, drive team, robot bashing into the wall when it should be on the team playing hard or highlights of the match.
It's almost impossible to determine the strategy teams are using during matches by watching them as they are being broadcasted now. I don't watch sports...but imagine watching a football game with only close up shots, there's no opportunity to analyze the game as a whole as it is unfolding.



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It's almost impossible to determine the strategy teams are using during matches by watching them as they are being broadcasted now. I don't watch sports...but imagine watching a football game with only close up shots, there's no opportunity to analyze the game as a whole as it is unfolding.



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It is hard to pick up on strategy, but why so many shots in the past two years have been drive teams, dead robots, empty field, and such is not necessary. When a robot is elevating in the final seconds, I'd rather watch that than a robot that has successfully done so before that.
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It's almost impossible to determine the strategy teams are using during matches by watching them as they are being broadcasted now. I don't watch sports...but imagine watching a football game with only close up shots, there's no opportunity to analyze the game as a whole as it is unfolding.
Sports don't show full field shots for the entire game, and I think that's the point of the original post in this thread, to get full field match videos for the entire event. Sports mix full field and close-ups, so why can't FIRST?
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Sports don't show full field shots for the entire game, and I think that's the point of the original post in this thread, to get full field match videos for the entire event. Sports mix full field and close-ups, so why can't FIRST?
Most sports games, at least ones that I know of, don't last 2:30. I agree that it would be more interesting if full field shots were mixed with close ups, but the close up shots seem cosmetic. Perhaps some sort of multishot system similar to what was done on einstein this year, with one of the shots constantly showing the full field. Matches are too short to show close up shots the entire time.
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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

I totally agree with this! watching matches from down on our tv in the pits was a pain, expecially when you try to watch a certian bot and for the first 45 seconds of the match they zoom in on a drive team.
but i never really noticed this problem in years before, atleast not as bad. so im not sure why this years was worse.
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It's almost impossible to determine the strategy teams are using during matches by watching them as they are being broadcasted now. I don't watch sports...but imagine watching a football game with only close up shots, there's no opportunity to analyze the game as a whole as it is unfolding.
For what it is worth, NFL coaches rarely, if ever, use the video broadcasted on fox, cbs, espn, nbc, nft network to gameplan. They use video that shows the entire field from several different angles (endzone, 50 yard line, top view) to determine strategy. Like us, the NFL coaches struggle with broadcasted video being zoomed in too much. I'm pretty sure they took it upon themselves to record the games themselves.
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Re: Requesting "Full-field" Match Video for Webcasts from FIRST

I'd be in. I have hated trying to watch other teams from other states and having to watch some other robot I couldn't care less about.

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