On the Platform for three points.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by ratdude747

well, any vertical pole hanger that touches the platform to keep it from sliding below 18" would technically be on the platform. so, here are the teams that i can think of that would get 3 points:

33
1625
135
1114
and MANY more!

so it is not as exclusive as one would think.

33 and 1114 both use friction to stay above the platform, they don't actually touch it.

[EricH]

330 has long had a desire to be able to win a match regardless of partners' ability. If a strategy relies completely on partners, they just won't do that as their primary strategy. Building a ramp to the platform relies on partners that can climb it. Being a climber relies on partners with ramps that you can climb.

Too hard to pull off reliably to be viable. Make it 10 points, and we'll talk.

[IKE]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

33 and 1114 both use friction to stay above the platform, they don't actually touch it.

Yep, we use friction. now if there was another bonus point for touching the platform, I think we could arrange a touch.

[TEE]

To be honest, at the beginning of the season, I woulds have liked to see more of an incentive for hanging, say 3 points on your own and 4 for hanging off of a teammate (and I partially still do), but things worked out okay. Just getting points for getting on the platform? I don't know about that... sounds like rewarding extra points for a simpler and an easier solution (say, the ramp).

Seriously, can anyone with a robot that can hang say that their hanging mechanism was easy to build?

[TEE]

And Lee, did your team try building a hanging mechanism?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by TEE

And Lee, did your team try building a hanging mechanism?

Their robot (picture on TBA) does not appear to have any hanging capability. As they are rookies, I am not surprised at this; even many veteran teams had a hard time hanging.

As for using a ramp to put another robot in a given position being simpler and easier, witness 2007 and the many crashes from elevating mechanisms. For some reason, I can't find any pictures of 201 from that year on TBA or CD, so I don't know if they tried the "simple and easy" task of elevating another robot or not.

[TEE]

When I said simple and easy, I meant building a ramp to allow another robot to climb up to the platform; if well designed, building such a ramp would be much easier, although I'll admit it may be harder to implement in a match. (Further, it probably would require less weight and power to operate)

My point was that if you awarded, say 4 points for getting onto the platform, the teams that built robots to climb ramps, and robots with ramps, would earn as many points as two robots capable of lifting themselves, a task far more difficult than building/climbing a ramp.

As for lifting another robot as well as yourself, that would be pretty amazing and would merit recognition

(I only joined 201 in 2008, and the only robot before then I can remember was our Aim High robot, although I think I remember that we used something like a forklift last time we hanged)

[TEE]

I'll do some research... I'm sure I can find a picture of our '07 bot somewhere...